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Lemme throw an idea into the mix, though it would probably turn out to be messy. Concerning themes, what if THAC 9a and b had the same theme and judging panel, but instead of the traditional THAC STARTS NOW! thread, the theme and rules are sent privately through email? People could send a PM to the host of the contest stating whether they'd participate in THAC 9a or b. There would also be one grand prize winner.

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Someone would tell other people, voice actors wouldn't be able to help out in the first one, no one would be able to chat and discuss themes, people would have to keep their videos private for a few weeks.... It makes sense as an idea, but I don't think people could and would keep a secret that well.

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I had a feeling that soneone would point out something I had overlooked. Ah well, it was just an idea.

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What about just having two winners?

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mcoov wrote:

Right. With this, I'm imagining a roughly 60/40 split, leaving more room for complaints. This has been brought up by both MPfist0, and by StudioL30. I don't see how it would be fair to combine the scores for what are essentially two seperate contests. If the themes were similar, then I think it could work, but that would mean that whoever runs THAC IX B, has to closely watch what happens during THAC IX A, and that would provide for less overall film diversity.

However, if people knows that the themes are similar, the ones that enter THAC IX B will start working on a story two weeks earlier, 'cause after all, the themes are similar.
I think two different winners would be the fairest choice.

kcirbfilms wrote:

Someone would tell other people, voice actors wouldn't be able to help out in the first one, no one would be able to chat and discuss themes, people would have to keep their videos private for a few weeks.... It makes sense as an idea, but I don't think people could and would keep a secret that well.

I think it wouldn't make sense. It's unthinkable, imo, that people won't chat or ask someone else to voice act for them, because that's what THAC is all about, that's what we all do: it's not just creating a movie in 24 hours, it's discussing and helping others in every way possible. At least, that's how I always saw THAC.
It wouldn't work, and not because it's hard to keep a secret, but because it would kill the best part of the contest, and therefore there wouldn't be that much fun in making an entry: it would just be more tough.
Just my opinion, though.

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Why not just have it on one day and stop fussing about all this? The poll clearly says more people want it in December, so have it in December? Tough luck for anyone who can't enter, you can't accommodate for everyone without making everything complicated, they can enter next year.

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Rsteenoven wrote:

Why not just have it on one day and stop fussing about all this? The poll clearly says more people want it in December, so have it in December? Tough luck for anyone who can't enter, you can't accommodate for everyone without making everything complicated, they can enter next year.

This.

C'mon seriously, the world isn't fair. Besides, having two THACs just doesn't sound like a good idea to me, sorry. Like Rsteenoven said, the vote says December so far and from the looks of it, I don't think the other votes will catch.

-LASF

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Yeah, it would be too much trouble for there to be two THACs. There will be those people complaining about how they could only enter the one with the worse theme, and all that (me possibly mini/lol ). But, if there have to be two THACs, so be it.

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If there is a possibility of having two different THACs and to make more people happy, why not try? I'm not saying "it HAS TO BE DONE", but if there's a way, I say we should try figure out how to make it work.
In case it's not possible, I'm not going to commit suicide either.

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Ya two contests would be cool

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Danimation wrote:

What about just having two winners?

This was my original plan.

Living LEGO wrote:

Lemme throw an idea into the mix, though it would probably turn out to be messy. Concerning themes, what if THAC 9a and b had the same theme and judging panel, but instead of the traditional THAC STARTS NOW! thread, the theme and rules are sent privately through email? People could send a PM to the host of the contest stating whether they'd participate in THAC 9a or b. There would also be one grand prize winner.

The problem with your plan is that people would have to say — in advance — that they were going to enter 9A or 9B, and it would be a lot of e-mails for the organizers to send out. Other issues have been pointed out already.

StudioL30 wrote:

Perhaps people should be allowed to make films for both, and then they could choose the one they like more to enter the overall contest. For example, somebody could submit an entry for THAC 9 A, and a few weeks later, they could enter THAC 9 B. After that, they would choose the film they like better, and the other one would be cancelled/disqualified. I imagine this would be hard to organise on a large scale, but I think it would be most fair.

The issue here is that anyone who preferred their 9B entry would have to notify the organizer that they were withdrawing their 9A film, which would delay judging of 9A by several weeks. Also, lots of wasted effort.

Rsteenoven wrote:

Why not just have it on one day and stop fussing about all this? The poll clearly says more people want it in December, so have it in December? Tough luck for anyone who can't enter, you can't accommodate for everyone without making everything complicated, they can enter next year.

It doesn't have to be complicated. I'm currently favoring my original plan, but if we decide to have only one winner, than here's how I would structure it:
* First place = Selected winner, taken from both THACs.
*Second place = First place from other THAC (e.g. Overall winner is from THAC 9B, than second place would be winner of THAC 9A.)
*Third place = Runner up, taken from both THACs.
*Fourth place = Runner up, taken from other THAC.

Essentially, the second and fourth place winners would be functions of the first and third place winners.

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I'm very confused here. I just came back and saw this. What is this about and has the date be decided?

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I vote that if by December 1st if we dont come up with a different solution then we just take the winner from the poll. Whos with me?

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Eddie wrote:

I'm very confused here.

Me too.

I still think we should just pick the date with the most votes instead of going through all this confusion. For people who miss out on THAC 9 because they're away or they just can't participate, there's always THAC 10, right?

Fantasyfilmer wrote:

Ya two contests would be cool

I disagree. It'd just be confusing, like I said above.

-LASF

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I agree with LASF why have a vote if we won't go with the majority?

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LASF wrote:

For people who miss out on THAC 9 because they're away or they just can't participate, there's always THAC 10, right?

I do see your point but then the people that missed THAC 9 might miss THAC 10 and then those people might miss THAC 11, and so on. And I know I was devestated when I found out I missed THAC 8.

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I have a question would thac start on a saturday or a sunday. Just wondering mini/cat

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Both the 17th of December and the 7th of January are Saturdays at 1200 GMT.

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There were two rounds in THAC 5, I'm not a fan of the idea this time mostly because we don't have enough trustworthy people interested in helping out with two rounds. Also, in order to avoid copy-cats and one-upping and things of that sort, THAC 5 had entrants of round A keep their entries private until after round B. It made sense with two dates that were close together as in THAC 5, but here there'd be a long gap of time which makes this increasingly problematic.

I can see why this two-rounds idea seems like a good idea to some people, but it increases the already substantial workload of running the contest pretty significantly. I'm mostly just hoping to get this contest to happen at all at this point, so I'm fairly set against it. The bottom line is that most people interested in entering THAC will make time to enter on either date so having two dates isn't a huge boost, as indicated by THAC 5 not having many entrants in the A round, anyway.

Between that and the fairly clear majority vote I'm leaning toward trying to get this together in time for the December date. I'd also note that judging would go slower with the January date since people have more time to judge over the holidays.

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I may not be able to enter, so if you need some help running it, I may be able to assist in that.