Re: BrickFilm Cinematic Universe proposal

jampot wrote:

Could be called Blot? As in ink blot. I'll work on a character bio.

Possibly.  I'm thinking something along the lines of The Shadow, but that's way too clichéd.  Perhaps something like "Penumbra"? Just a thought...

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but I think he's a bit too insane for this...

There's no such thing as too insane...

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Penumbra's a bit long and clunky. And I think steer away from darkness as such - maybe the colour Black as a whole could be his area of influence (and therefore darkness by extension). I like Blot because it's simple, like his normal form, which is just plain black.

I haven't got any pics yet, but here's a brief summary I did a few minutes ago. For the purposes of this post, his name's Blot. We can decide whether that's his name or not later.

Blot
A minifigure of unknown origin, thought it is believed that he was a failed artist. At some point, he was touched the Maelstrom, but rather than being taken over by it, he was transformed in a different way; he became a new being, completely separate from the Maelstrom, called Blot.

His main form is black, but as a shapeshifter he can become anything black (within reason - he normally stays close to minifigure size). He can also assume colour for limited periods of time, meaning that he can shapeshift into any minifigure. However, he cannot copy another fig's powers; if he wishes to use an ability outside his own power set, he must resort to technology or magical artifacts (he himself cannot use magic directly). That said, he can increase his strength and speed and other basic physical aspects if he wishes.

Blot is erratic and changeable; he can form hugely complex master-plans, and they're normally very good when he does, but he often changes to a new project halfway through out of boredom or impatience. He's also extremely creative, crafty and quick-witted, and knows how to use his powers to greatest effect.

His powers are:

  • Shapeshifting (explained above)

  • Infection: he can temporarily infect bricks with his power, so that he can control them completely. This also applies to minifigs. However, the effect is not permanent (maybe 24 to 96 hours, depending on the size/strength of will?).

  • Black Manipulation: He can manipulate anything that is black, though the bigger the object, the greater the focus required. Heroes fighting him may eventually learn to wear non-black clothing. By extension, he can also control darkness and shadow.

  • He can teleport by entering something that is black. There must be something black at the other end for him to materialise out of.

Thoughts, people? Obviously, we can change lots. Not gonna' lie, I like the name Blot. It's plosive, and sounds somewhat evil, whilst it's also simple but memorable. Plus, there'll be some great puns we can make based on it in future scripts. But I'm willing to let up if something better comes along.

And Max, insane is good. It means your brain's been cranked up to 11.

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I like it.

I'm still not sold on the name Blot, though.  I can see your reasoning behind it, and in itself it fits quite well--it's just that the word "blot" makes me immediately think of a blob of ink, or a stain left behind by a spilled drink, which kinda goes against the rest of the character's vibe to me.  I'm probably just being weird, though.

Hmm... coming to think of it, might "Stain" be a good alternative name?  Anything Blot/Stain touches becomes stained itself .  Though it could equally be applied to a minion of Blot, or lonely figure, who is cursed to wander around forever, corrupting anything he/she touches....

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I think Stain as a separate character. Like you say, maybe a minion. The name Stain suggests something unwanted. Or perhaps if a lonely figure, Stain could be an opposing force to Blot.

And I did already think of Blot as an ink blot, which is why I like it. It links back to using the imagery of black in general, rather than just darkness, and the way of drop of ink spreads on paper or even in water looks kind of like a slow infection, taking over a small part of whatever it touches. And also, ink is part of writing, which is a creative art.

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I really like that Blot character, as well as the name "Blot".
(What about translating "Blot" in other languages to see if something that sounds good comes us. The meaning would still be there but somewhat hidden.)

I also really like this whole project, I might make videos in that Universe later.

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What if Blot is his central name, but he has other aliases that he goes by depending on where he is? So even his identity, not just his physical form, shifts to an extent (obviously, his personality stays roughly the same).

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Hmm, the name "Blot" has grown on me.  What I meant before is that the word seemed to, to me, connotate something fairly insignificant, which seemed weird to me.  I really like the idea of other aliases though, as it again makes the character more versatile, which is always a good thing.

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Wow, this is really picking up speed! 
I really like the character of Blot, and I think the name would work fine. 

So I really love how this is coming along and I wish I could make something for it when there's more of a basis of the world but I doubt I'll have the time, what with school and swimming. 

In any case, I don't really have any characters that could fit in anywhere at the moment. 
I suppose the characters from Perpetual Twilight (Elves, Vampires, and a Werewolf) are really my only characters that I actually have a sort of back history on, if anyone is interested in those characters and a (very) basic fantasy land that I started work on, I could write more in the Character Collection thread. 

I already have someone I stick in the background of my videos, it's basically Slenderman (a plain white head with Lex Luthor's suit).  I wish I had designed my own character for that...dang it.  Also, I made a four-part Johnny Thunder series when I was much younger but I never finished the sound on the last two episodes.  One thing I did in that was a running joke (no one ever saw the films so only I knew about it...) where every episode a scorpion would be smooshed or shot or run over and it would end up as a pile of green goo. 
So if anyone makes a Johnny Thunder film you should totally have a scorpion get smashed into trans-green 1x1 round plates. mini/wink

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I like the idea of blot being mysterious and almost abstract, that way different brickfilmers can interpret him in various ways.

Also having him infect different things/people could result in some sweet villains with more fine tuned backstories. That way we could make our own minor villains while still having blot as the main overlord villain dude.

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I'm not sure about blot.  Having a black magical villain who's just really evil is a tad on the cliche side.  But I don't actually have a better alternative, and he sounds like a delight to animate.

Anyway, I've been thinking out a film idea, and maybe it could start with Sir Squid fighting a monster to introduce him, then once he's done, Vertigo pops up and gets him to take up some sort of quest that Vertigo can't do himself because he has some other business in the multiverse.

I'm thinking maybe he gives him some object for safekeeping, but doesn't have time to explain why, then lots of stuff starts coming to try to jack the object from Squid, but he really doesn't know why it's so special.
Or maybe he has to deliver a letter.

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True that.  Though I think the idea is that Blot is a sort of template, to which individual animators can add their own interpretation of him (or her or it).  I'd agree that black, while being a great colour, is kind of overused and stereotypical for villains.  It would be great to see a villain dressed in really bright and cheerful colours, just to make a change.  Actually, coming to think of it, I do in fact have an idea for a character like this--which I can hopefully post soon.  And another thought that crossed my mind is that a villain like Mr. Smiley would work perfectly with multi-coloured-ness.  The picture I posted is fairly old, so I think it's time for a revamp.

It's great that you've thought a story with Mr. Vertigo.  But while Mr. Vertigo does have a Gandalf-like tendency to randomly appear and disappear, I feel that him simply giving Squid a quest to complete would reduce him to a plot device, rather than letting him grow and develop as a character.  Maybe he and Squid could complete the quest together, because the villain or antagonist is too strong for one of them to do it alone?
That said, I quite like the idea of Squid fending off people who are trying to steal the object, but he has no idea why it's so important.
If we get any further ideas though we can drop each other a line and sort out the particulars via PM.

P.S.: If to jack something means to steal in Riigo-Faloo, maybe "Jack-in-the-Box" could be slang for a criminal or thief who has been caught and put in jail?

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FlyingMinifig wrote:

True that.  Though I think the idea is that Blot is a sort of template, to which individual animators can add their own interpretation of him (or her or it).  I'd agree that black, while being a great colour, is kind of overused and stereotypical for villains.  It would be great to see a villain dressed in really bright and cheerful colours, just to make a change.  Actually, coming to think of it, I do in fact have an idea for a character like this--which I can hopefully post soon.  And another thought that crossed my mind is that a villain like Mr. Smiley would work perfectly with multi-coloured-ness.  The picture I posted is fairly old, so I think it's time for a revamp.

It's great that you've thought a story with Mr. Vertigo.  But while Mr. Vertigo does have a Gandalf-like tendency to randomly appear and disappear, I feel that him simply giving Squid a quest to complete would reduce him to a plot device, rather than letting him grow and develop as a character.  Maybe he and Squid could complete the quest together, because the villain or antagonist is too strong for one of them to do it alone?
That said, I quite like the idea of Squid fending off people who are trying to steal the object, but he has no idea why it's so important.
If we get any further ideas though we can drop each other a line and sort out the particulars via PM.

P.S.: If to jack something means to steal in Riigo-Faloo, maybe "Jack-in-the-Box" could be slang for a criminal or thief who has been caught and put in jail?

Maybe Vertigo doesn't just pop up and give the object to Squid. Maybe he's just had a big fight and barely escaped, and is completely exhausted. He lands somewhere near Squid by random happenstance. His quest has a time limit on it, and it needs to get done, but he's in no shape to do it so he asks Squid to do it while he recharges.

As for the black, I totally get it. It is overused. But I think save bright colours for other villains - my Caden Hawke villain, BOX, is mostly yellow and lime green (or at least, the last version was), but I think the concept of Blot fits best with black. It's like when he isn't copying someone else's appearance, he doesn't have any form of his own - after all, black's a kind on non-colour, which is why it's so perfect for evil people. And like FM said, different animators can bring all kinds of different things to the character.

BTW I refer to Blot as a 'he' for the sake of ease. We can decide on gender/genderlessness later.

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jampot wrote:

Maybe Vertigo doesn't just pop up and give the object to Squid. Maybe he's just had a big fight and barely escaped, and is completely exhausted. He lands somewhere near Squid by random happenstance. His quest has a time limit on it, and it needs to get done, but he's in no shape to do it so he asks Squid to do it while he recharges.

I actually really like that idea.  Perhaps, in the beginning, it's Mr. Vertigo who is fighting the beast/monster instead.  He gets the artefact from the monster, but is wounded in the process. He has to recover, so he turns to Squid instead, and gives him a quest, though doesn't explain why the artefact is so important.  Squid then has to work out what to do and find a way to complete the quest while fighting off all the villains and jacks and whatnot.

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That's sounds legen-

Wait for it!

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-dary!

So I guess the next questions are: who's the bad guy/monster? what is the artefact, and what does it do? what type of sandwich is Squid's favourite? and who's going to animate all of this?

(sorry for the double post, it was done for comedic effect)

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Hehe, sure, no problem.  mini/wink

Well, I guess since it's Squid's idea, he'd be the one who would animate the film and probably script it.  I'd most likely give input on how to write/animate Mr. Vertigo, and perhaps co-script, if Squid's OK with that.  I'm not entirely sure what you'd do, though you could give input as well and organize anything relating to the BFCU itself.   We'll have to see what Squid thinks, and then sort out the details between ourselves.

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FlyingMinifig wrote:
jampot wrote:

Maybe Vertigo doesn't just pop up and give the object to Squid. Maybe he's just had a big fight and barely escaped, and is completely exhausted. He lands somewhere near Squid by random happenstance. His quest has a time limit on it, and it needs to get done, but he's in no shape to do it so he asks Squid to do it while he recharges.

I actually really like that idea.  Perhaps, in the beginning, it's Mr. Vertigo who is fighting the beast/monster instead.  He gets the artefact from the monster, but is wounded in the process. He has to recover, so he turns to Squid instead, and gives him a quest, though doesn't explain why the artefact is so important.  Squid then has to work out what to do and find a way to complete the quest while fighting off all the villains and jacks and whatnot.

That solves some of your problems, but it ruins the point of the original point I had.

I imagined Vertigo as some sort of bonkers cheery wizard with a personality similar to Willy Wonka.  He would pop up and tell Sir Squid about the thing, but do it in a really eccentric manner, popping to a different spot mid sentence, spinning in circles occasionally and doing some really weird stuff, which would both be fun to animate and be enjoyable to watch.  Once done, he'd pop away, leaving Sir Squid in a rather odd position and a lot of fighting and a big mystery as to what the object is.

I find it more entertaining in my head with Vertigo in the beginning like that, and it makes the mystery a bit more interesting.  Though, of course, if Vertigo isn't as eccentric as I imagine him to be, then it totally wouldn't work at all.

Once Sir Squid finishes, Vertigo would come back and explain the big mystery, whatever that is.

Perhaps then in another film Vertigo and Sir Squid could work more as a team with some better communication and understanding.

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Wow, this is really coming along! Last night when I was almost asleep I thought of an idea for a villain, but I'm not sure 1) if it's really any good, and 2) if we really need any more villains. Should I go ahead and post my idea?

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Post it!

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Now that you've explained it in more detail, I like the original idea much more.
"Bonkers cheery wizard" is actually a very accurate description of Mr. Vertigo.  This is exactly how I imagine him too--especially the weird movements (he never does anything normally.  For example, instead of walking, he'll run, slide, teleport all over the place and pop up in different places all at once, or walk on the walls and ceilings, or just randomly float through the air.). And yeah, he's very eccentric (his personality is also quite similar to that of The Doctor, especially the Eleventh).

However, Mr. Vertigo wouldn't just randomly give any passerby a quest if it involved a lot of danger, which is a bit problematic as I imagine a bunch of relicjacks and villains would be after this object and it would involve a big fight with a beast at the end.  Still, if Squid is a seasoned adventurer, Vertigo might recognize that he's capable of fulfilling the quest.
  I also really like the idea of Mr. Vertigo and Squid teaming up at the end of the film, or in another. 

For now, though, we can work out a rough storyline together, then write a script.

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