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Maybe there is a little help for inspiration. A while ago I started a list of some experimental films I like very much in the german brickboard. If you have never seen an abstract/experimental/"avantgarde" film you should check out. Here is the link:
http://brickboard.de/viewtopic.php?t=1994
Thanks for the helpful post Lao.
I'm not surprised that people are struggling to just understand the concept of the contest, it was expected but hopefully with some of the suggestions people have posted here you'll be able to come up with ideas eventually. The difficulty of the theme is part of the reason I wanted to launch it ASAP, so people could afford to spend a fair amount of time on developing ideas.
It also crossed my mind earlier today that the majority of brickfilms by Egoless Productions are good examples of unique and different. Probably the best example of "avant-garde" from his films would be Kerouac.
would someone be so kind as to explain what the theme is i have read it yet just cant grab what its about
A question,
Can it be an episode of a serie? Where other episodes are already released?
Yes, T.G-Tom. As long as it doesn't rely heavily on preexisting footage or something like that.
EHmovies, Dr Neo Lao's post on this very page would probably be a good place to start.
ok i think i get it. make a film that barely or no people have done before. new idea new techniques stuff like that. can i just ask though how on earth would you make it possible to have a hidden person who appears with a red filter on a film?
EDIT: is a film like the butterly effect good enough because i started a movie based around that theroey
I was confused by that too, it wouldn't be possible to make it totally invisible as far as I can tell. You could use, say, a colored noise filter over the video so you need the red filter to make part of the image viewable. Not that I'm suggesting somebody do this.
doesnt matter not using that anyway. would my idea be a good one about the theroey butterfly effect because that deals with consequences
I couldn't judge from that broad a concept, it's up to you to come up with something new and original. How you set up your story and present it in the film is a big part of that.
Thanks for that list smeagol that really helped
A few examples of conventions you are free to break:
There is a visual video component to the film at almost all times.
The film has a story, with a beginning, middle, and end. Usually presented in that order.
The film only shows us one camera angle at a time.
There is only one possible way to watch the film -- it consists of a single video file that is viewed from start to finish.
These are especially interesting I think. Hopefully I'll be able to muster a good film.
I also think that 'The River' would have done very well in this contest.
I'm still having a little bit of trouble with this, would an adventure film(like Indiana Jones) shown through the eyes of the native guarding the secret treasure the adventurer is seeking, fit into the theme? I'm just trying to get an example I can understand.
I think the contest name Avant-Garde might be intimidating to some people. If you are having trouble understanding the contest theme just think of it this way. Make something you have naver seen done before. The more out of the box type of thinking for your film the better.
I'll agree that the whole concept can be a little hard to get.
You could say that an avant-garde film was one that instead of bieng portrayed normally, it was performed live-action in someone's living room with an orchestra playing in the back yard. Of course, this would not be practical for our purposes.
There are a few limitations. Whatever film you decide to make, it will still have to be a video file shared across the internet. So you couldn't add any smells, make it fly across the screen, add surround sound (actually, you could - just that 90% of the viewers have cheap stereo computer speakers) or other fancy "extras".
What we need to do is disassociate the term "avant-garde" from "fancy snob films nobody gets" in the minds of the members.
Many of the people here have the types pf movies that they are comfortable with. Action movies for example. A subtle example of an avant-garde action movie would be the original Die Hard film.
"Huh?" I hear you ask. "Die Hard wasn't an avant-garde film!"
Actually, yes it was. If you look at Bruce Willis today, he is almost synonymous with tough action roles and looks perfectly at home carrying guns, jumping away from explosions and driving cars really fast. However, when Die Hard was first released, Bruce was a comedian. He was most famous for his work on the tv series "moonlighting" and most of the advertising for the film (prior to it's opening weekend success) did not show Bruce.
For a film to be avant-garde, it does not have to have a "gimmick" that makes it different, it just needs to be a bit more creative than a normal film.
So its pretty much a Brickfilm that has material never before seen?
I think of it as a Brickfilm with a new taste or a new spin to in.
For a film to be avant-garde, it does not have to have a "gimmick" that makes it different, it just needs to be a bit more creative than a normal film.
This is true, though I would say you'll probably want something fairly significant rather than just something that is subtly different from the norm. "Gimmicks" are okay, IMO, as long as they are well-done and don't come across as gimmicky -- and as long as there is more to the film than the gimmick alone.
Okay, finally got the time to reply on this. First off, thanks to Sméagol for organizing this, and -above all- posting that so soon. I'll definitely think about an entry, as I think the theme is very interesting. I'll see if I can come up with an interesting idea.
so a film seen from inside a minifigures eyes would be a good example
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