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Man of Steel - Official Trailer #2

While I thought the first teaser was pretty good, I'm divided on this one.
The slower, less action-oriented style didn't fire me up the way most trailers should.
It wasn't bad, but simply put, it didn't feel very "Super."

By the way, I pre-ordered my Hobbit tickets for 10:30 AM, Friday the 14th, HFR 3D. And I can't wait! mini/love

EDIT: Lone Ranger trailer #2.
Apparently, Ranger is now not only playing second fiddle, but has risen from the dead and can't be killed anymore. mini/rolleyes This just keeps getting dumber each trailer.

FlyingMinifig wrote:

Yeah, my initial reaction was "this needs more action!".  That being said, I think it'll be very interesting and refreshing to see a different style than the typical action-oriented superhero movie.

Are you two serious?! I'm not going to say whether it looked super or not, but you guys seriously think that that trailer didn't have enough action in it? Wow... It may not be The Avengers, but still... (I don't really mind you thinking that, I just find it rather funny.)

As for the Lone Ranger. I didn't expect anything from it from the start. Actually, it looks like it is going to fit jerry Bruckheimer perfectly. Fluff, pure fluff. Amusing possibly though... (and yes, he definitely comes back from the dead, though the immortal part seems a bit iffy...)

About the beard comments. Come on. Really? That is what you had to say about it...

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The Hobbit is out in the United States! And I'm going to go see it Saturday, because I'm in a play!

Have you seen a big-chinned boy?

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Le Bump 

The Great Gatsby looks like a mouth-watering movie.  I'm going to read the book before it come out.  Leonardo DiCaprio will certainly be impressive as always.

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Binding Brick wrote:

I'm going to read the book before it comes out.

I've always found that to be a bad move if you finish it right before the film comes out.

If you read a book right before you watch the film, the contrast between the book and the film is very easily seen. It makes the movie look bad because basically all the way through you just see every single thing that was messed up.  Especially if you forget that it's going to be different.

I like having read the book a few months before it comes out, as to get it in, but not too fresh.

(I haven't read the Great Gatsby, though, and I haven't any idea what happens in it)

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AnnoyingNoisesProductions wrote:
Binding Brick wrote:

I'm going to read the book before it comes out.

I've always found that to be a bad move if you finish it right before the film comes out.

If you read a book right before you watch the film, the contrast between the book and the film is very easily seen. It makes the movie look bad because basically all the way through you just see every single thing that was messed up.  Especially if you forget that it's going to be different.

I like having read the book a few months before it comes out, as to get it in, but not too fresh.

(I haven't read the Great Gatsby, though, and I haven't any idea what happens in it)

Well then.

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AnnoyingNoisesProductions wrote:
Binding Brick wrote:

I'm going to read the book before it comes out.

I've always found that to be a bad move if you finish it right before the film comes out.

If you read a book right before you watch the film, the contrast between the book and the film is very easily seen. It makes the movie look bad because basically all the way through you just see every single thing that was messed up.  Especially if you forget that it's going to be different.

I like having read the book a few months before it comes out, as to get it in, but not too fresh.

(I haven't read the Great Gatsby, though, and I haven't any idea what happens in it)

For me, that won't be any problem, because I've just read--and intensively analysed and dissected--The Great Gatsby for my English classes, and am actually writing an essay about it right now.  Besides, the film is first coming out in May, which should give you enough time to read and "digest" the book if you want to.

Anyway, I'm excited about the film, and want to see it when it comes out. Judging from the trailers, it looks really stylized, Art-Deco-esque, and colourful [in the sense that specific colours are accentuated at different parts], which I think fits the style of the book perfectly.

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It would appear that JJ Abrams will be directing the new Star Wars film after all.

Insert lens-flare joke here.

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I was very pleased with JJ's last film based off of a popular franchise that I really like beginning with Star.

Naturally, I'm looking forward to this.

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I'm disappointed. Part of me was still secretly hoping that there would be some intervention that stops any-more Star Wars films being made.

I don't care if JJ Abrams directs it. He's like Joss Wheaton: he makes one (or two, depending if you can get over that gigantic plot-hole at the end of Star Trek - which I can) good film(s) and suddenly everyone starts worshipping him. People forget that Wheaton made Alien 4 (even Joss Wheaton forgets - as he takes every opportunity to say how terrible Alien 3 was; forgetting that he is more entitled to say that Alien 3 was a bad film than George Lucas is entitled to say that X-Men Origins was a bad prequel), and people forget that Abrams wrote Armageddon and was one of the many idiots behind Lost.

I don't care if Werner Herzog decided he wants in - NOTHING can save Star Wars. Not even if Orson Welles, Stanley Kubrick, Akira Kurosawa and Alfred Hitchcock did some sort of heavenly collaboration.

I feel like Winston Smith fighting against Big Brother. Star Wars will exist forever, and nothing anyone can say or do will ever kill it.

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STOKER is set for a limited release in the U.S. near the end of February/start of March. The film is directed by Park Chan-wook, a South Korean film director known for his film Oldboy. The film was shown at Sundance and so far has received mostly positive reviews.

Trailer #1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2odd1CVyTk
Trailer #2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNpDG4WR_74
Trailer #3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cph_wVKjrbc
Nicole Kidman's Speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y9FQNHlfM8

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Max Butcher wrote:

I feel like Winston Smith fighting against Big Brother. Star Wars will exist forever, and nothing anyone can say or do will ever kill it.

The Empire Is Watching You...

In seriousness, I think you're being pretty pessimistic here.  Just because JJ Abrams has, according to you, made "one or two good films" doesn't mean that this new Star Wars film will be bad.  (Of course, I'm not saying this is going to be good either; I have my own doubts, seeing as this mostly seems like a cash-grab on Disney's part...)

Max Butcher wrote:

NOTHING can save Star Wars. Not even if Orson Welles, Stanley Kubrick, Akira Kurosawa and Alfred Hitchcock did some sort of heavenly collaboration.

Forgive me for thinking this is a wee bit of an exaggeration...

I find the fact nearly everyone seems to be going on about how SW is now ruined comical.  These people appear to be the same sort who keep saying the Prequels ruined Star Wars, so does this now mean SW has been double-ruined, assuming this is possible?  Or are said people actually in a round-about way admitting that the Prequels aren't so bad after all and the constant stream of vitriol directed at George Lucas because of this is in fact undeserved?  Either way, we still have the original films to enjoy, so why should anyone make such a big fuss about it if they think the Prequels or the new upcoming film(s) are bad?

I'll admit I'm somewhat skeptical about this new film, but I shall withhold judgment until the trailer comes out.  Until then, we'll have to wait and see f the new Star Wars film is terrible, or, unthinkable though it may seem, actually entertaining and well-made.

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I believe nothing can save Star Wars simply because The Expanded Universe and the Prequels suck.

Well, OK, they don't all suck. The prequels suck, but there are some good Expanded Universe stories. However, the Expanded Universe still has the same fatal flaw of the prequels: its all just back-story and context. Yes, its fine to have a comic explaining exactly who the hell Master Sifo-Dias was (although nearly all of the comics/novels concerning the prequels are basically just filling in all the plot-holes) but when you make a film that's supposed to be placed along with the Original Trilogy as an equally important element of the overarching plot - as important as The Empire Strikes Back was to A New Hope - then that's just screwing the entire story up.

The Empire is defeated. What other story can one possibly tell that will be just as interesting? Is Luke and his gang going to spend three more films just wandering around the galaxy looking for any academies or fast-food restaurants Palpatine used to own? Or will they fight 'new' bad guys - who will probably just be the poorman's version of the Empire the same way Bane was the poorman's Joker. The fact that the Expanded Universe had to bring back both the Emperor and Boba Fett proves that the only thing the Expanded Universe can do is just re-do the Original Trilogy slightly differently.

Star Trek 11 worked because Star Trek is more free for new stories. Its based on a TV show that had a different plot each episode (occasionally ending on a cliffhanger), and thus had the freedom to make eleven films without it feeling like eight of them were just build-up or context. Star Trek: The Motion Picture didn't feel like just backstory for The Wrath of Khan and Star Trek 5 didn't feel like it was just prolonging the party after Star Trek 4.

Even if the prequels were good, they still wouldn't have been able to touch the Originals. The only good thing that kept us watching the prequels was the knowledge that eventually everything would turn into the Original Trilogy - which is why Episode 3 is considered by far the best prequel: because your finally seeing Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, and the Empire itself. But then I realise I could just watch the Original Trilogy where I can see these guys all the time. All the back-story I needed for the Original films was Obi-Wan's speech after he gives Luke his lightsaber, and the opening text crawl. You look at both these pieces of exposition and think "OK. The galaxy has been taken over by Space-Nazis and now a load of people are going to come and set things right"

Same with the upcoming sequels. I've never looked at the end of Lord of the Rings and thought "No! I want to know exactly where Frodo goes and what he gets up to with the Elves!"

Less is more. 1984 would suck if there was a prequel that told everyone how Big Brother came to power, or a sequel where we find out exactly what happens to everyone afterwards. But 1984 isn't a franchise - and eventually all franchises get overblown. It just shocks me that Star Wars is one of the largest franchises ever when the Original Trilogy is such a contained story.

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Lul, max u so silly.

Theoretically, even if Abrams has done some stuff that you didn't like, and some stuff that you did like, then there's about a half chance that it will be good.

I usually don't enjoy prequels that much, you already know what's going to happen, but sometimes I do.
Still, with a sequel, you can do basically anything, so I'd wait to see what direction they're taking with this.

But I do hope that they don't re-use old villains or anything and take it in some fresh direction. I think you're right about fighting the same battle.
But Star Wars is a big universe, I'm sure there are plenty of new bad guys they could fight.

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I hope Darth Maul returns with a new taxation scheme for Naboo!!!

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Squid wrote:

Theoretically, even if Abrams has done some stuff that you didn't like, and some stuff that you did like, then there's about a half chance that it will be good.

Firstly: Art does not work by percentages. I don't look at the filmography of Terry Gilliam and think; "I really like eight of his films, but I think The Brothers Grimm and Jabberwocky are both disappointing efforts (to be fair, Jabberwocky was incredibly ambitious, it made on a minuscule budget, and it was Gilliam's first solo film. You could do a lot worse). That means there is an 8/10 or 80% chance that his upcoming film will be good".

Anyone is capable of sucking, just the same as anyone is capable of being good (obviously though, its much harder to be good).

Secondly: Above you, I wrote a huge comment explaining why Star Wars is screwed even if Abrams puts out a good effort. When the final Harry Potter Book came out, everyone was asking JK Rowling if she was going to write books about Harry's children or Harry's parents. She correctly said "No, I never will. The story is over and I want to move onto other stuff". The whole earth-shaking Voldemort thing and Harry being Wizard-Jesus is over - what else is there to tell? Even if a prolific contemporary author like Ian McEwan or Michael Frayn had a go at making another series, it would still be a by-product of the original story regardless of its quality. No-one seems to be getting the idea that the best endings resolve the main overarching plot, but don't conclude every single tiny detail because then otherwise the whole thing stagnates.

The best we can hope for is that Episode VII is meh - because that's all it can possibly be. Yes, I know its only just been announced, but its impossible for Episode VII to actually be at the level of the other films because the story is over. Its like having the support act coming on after the main show. You might as well make a sequel to Titanic, or Avat-oh wait (I hope that never happens by the way. I still hate the original Avatar - I can't imagine how much its going to suck now that there's no plot left. I hope it just keeps getting postponed forever)

I feel sorry for Abrams because he's doomed to make a mediocre film and its not going to be his fault. Actually, no, I don't feel sorry for him because he's going to make over a hundred times more money than everyone on this site combined will ever make in their lifetime.

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I think everyone's set on there own paths here, and nobody's views are going to change at this stage (not that I want to dictate a viewpoint to anyone, 'cos that'd be mean) but I'll throw in my two cents.

Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith were atrocious. Really, truly terrible. I still watch them from time to time, not because it's the only current version of Star Wars, but because I kind of enjoyed the action sequences. To me, the Original Trilogy will always be how I see Star Wars, with the Prequels as "fun" additions. Therefore, to me Star Wars hasn't been ruined.

The Force Unleashed was simply amazing. After Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, it's my favourite video game of all time. I was really excited about the second TFU, but it sucked. Terrible. An incredibly disappointing addition to the Expanded Universe. And yet, that's not how I remember the two games. I remember it as the first, and barely think about the second. Therefore, to me The Force Unleashed hasn't been ruined.

Do you see what I'm saying? Just because the latest addition to something was bad doesn't mean that it ruins the whole franchise or saga. For instance, Zack Snyder made 300, which rocked, but Sucker Punch was a huge let-down. Still, I don't see him as a bad director, because he did 300, and so I have faith in Man of Steel and his new Star Wras movie (if the rumours are true).

Now I'm not trying to change your view Max, because if everyone thought the same way as me then the world would be a boring place. Not only would I have nobody to argue with mini/lol but all movies and books and video games would be frighteningly similar. Diversity fuels variety, and variety's a good thing.

What I am trying to say is that we shouldn't judge JJ and the new Star Wars movies until we see them, or at the very least some kind of trailer.

And as for the story being over, have you seen the Star Wars Expanded Universe? Since Episode IV came out, there have been books, comics and video games spanning more than 4,000 years of the Star Wars galaxy's timeline, and some of it's been "meh" or mediocre, or even plain bad, but some of it has been truly inspired and brilliant, and as long as there's a galaxy out there, there are stories to be told. In the books, Luke, Leia and Han all have families, who fight enemies of their own. What of the Empire? Palpatine's death alone wouldn't destroy it completely, so there's still a war to be fought against the remnant Empire. And are there any Jedi in hiding that Luke could recruit. Do you see?

Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I honestly believe that even if that's the case, I have good reason to be. My reason? The Avengers was awesome, even after terrible Marvel movies in the past. Skyfall was fantastic, even after Quantum of Solace and Casino Royale. Even Star Trek made a decent comeback!

But that's just my view on things. mini/smile

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What about The Old Republic? 

I see what you mean, Max, but it doesn't do anything to change what I've said.  No offense, but I think you're being pretty narrow-minded here.  The SW Universe timeline spans thousands of years, the events of the Original Trilogy being a relatively tiny segment of this. So surely it shouldn't be too much trouble creating decent stories not involving the Rebels vs. Empire conflict.  As Squid pointed out, these are sequels, not prequels, which leaves much more freedom in terms of the storyline.  I'm not a huge fan of the Extended Universe myself, and I definitely agree resurrecting Boba Fett and The Emperor is ridiculous, but it's really like any other group of books or films--there's some good material and some bad material.  (And, in the case of Boba Fett, it might not be entirely bad, as he's an extremely popular character despite doing next to nothing in the actual films--he as a grand total of, erm, one line--so there's a lot of potential for stories involving him that might not involve the Empire or the Rebels much at all; providing, of course, that the stories are done well.)  Though apparently this film's going to have a completely new, original plot, so this is beside the point. 

I disagree about Episode III: it is my favourite Prequel, but this is mainly because it has some great lightsaber duels, the acting is much better than Episode II (Episode II wouldn't be half as bad if it wasn't for those cringeworthy Padme-and-Anakin scenes), and it has one of the best Prequel villains, General Grievous (even if he is woefully underused and has an anticlimactic death).

Jampot wrote:

What I am trying to say is that we shouldn't judge JJ and the new Star Wars movies until we see them, or at the very least some kind of trailer.

This is in a nutshell what I mean.  I refuse to judge this until we know more.  Until then, going on about how bad or good this is going to be is really just pointless.

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Wow, huge bump.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5kYmrjongg

Alright, I'm intrigued by this film. I can see how this could go really wrong but it could be a great film at the same time. But that's the worst CGI car I think I've ever seen at 0:30.

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Chris W. wrote:

Wow, huge bump.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5kYmrjongg

Alright, I'm intrigued by this film. I can see how this could go really wrong but it could be a great film at the same time. But that's the worst CGI car I think I've ever seen at 0:30.

Why did they chose Tom Hanks?
I don't dislike him or anything, he just doesn't look or sound anything like Disney.

Everything else about it looks pretty good, but just why?  WHY!?

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Squid wrote:
Chris W. wrote:

Wow, huge bump.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5kYmrjongg

Alright, I'm intrigued by this film. I can see how this could go really wrong but it could be a great film at the same time. But that's the worst CGI car I think I've ever seen at 0:30.

Why did they chose Tom Hanks?
I don't dislike him or anything, he just doesn't look or sound anything like Disney.

Everything else about it looks pretty good, but just why?  WHY!?

I don't know, I kinda like Tom Hanks as Walt Disney. I think it might be just the personality that he can portray that's similar to Walt. And if even if he doesn't look or sound too strikingly close to Walt Disney, if he captures the essence of him that's really all that matters.