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This is my entry to the 'Avant-Garde' contest. It is rushed at the end since I did most of the filming of the film itself yesterday.

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I quite like this entry. You really improved a lot, it suprised me. The voice acting was a bit overacted(That's THE last image, you'll see in your life), the animation was pretty good. Editing was alright but it could use practice.I liked the trippy sequence, I just would of added some more weird noises. The corpse in the basement looked cool.
The only thing that really bothered me was the sounddesign, you really need to pracitice it, there were a lot of parts that were soundless and didn't come off great. For example the train, we hear it going when weer outside but inside there's no sound at all. It'd of been better if you continued the noise, but lowered the volume when we cut to the inside of the train. At some parts I'd of liked to hear some suspensful music or scare noises too.
Some backstory with the characters would of been nice too.


It's not flawless, but I really liked it. From what I've seen it's your best film so far. Good job.

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It really laked build up, all the scenes went by so quickly, there should be some tention until the killer caught the people in his basement, all the characters definatly needed a scene to get to know them, we just see them coming in picture and minute later they are dead. And Vik pretty much coverd the SFX part, I liked the trippy horror scene, definatly some dedication and great ideas there, If you get good with dark colors you'll definatly scare the crap out of us soon.
Overall I expected more, but I know you will get really better in the future.
Keep making these movies man!

3/5

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You have good ideas and set design, this would be a great film if there were more sound effects and if the pacing was better.

I don't really see how this is Avant-Garde and I wouldn't be surprised if it was disqualified for violence.

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Um... Not so good. Not to be mean, but the animation just seemed extremly choppy. There were random camera movements and bumps, and even when those camera movements were intentional, it still looked bad. I think overall, the story moved along WAY to fast. Each seen was like 5 seconds long. The story was extremely confusing, and I'm really not quite sure what happened besides this: Some guy had blood coming out of his suitcase (I'm still not for sure what that was all about), there is a killer, there is a detective, and that's about all. From what I understood about the story, it seemed way too cliche; and at the same time, I dont know how this fits the Avant-Garde theme. And way to violent and bloody for me. It's lego. You should kinda rethink that. All in all, One and a half out of five stars.

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There were some nice parts; the title card, the train at the beginning, and the kind of surreal montage in the middle, but on the whole it just didn't make enough sense to be interesting.

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This would have been a decent B-movie horror flick if it wasn't so poorly paced and lacking in character development.

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Why would a conductor go out of his way to follow a bloody suitcase?  Why did he have to do all the investigation (getting the license plate number, etc.) and then hand it off to the police?  All of that could have been handled by the police in the first place.

There was something going on in that house and we wanted to know what it was, instead, we get nothing.

A remastering with additional character development and material would be nice.

Avant-Garde-worthy?  Uh...that one montage would certain give younglings nightmares.

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Thanks for the reviews guys! I really didn't start filming until maybe a week ago and then the final scene I was filming at 1 am because I had to refilm scenes over and over because of a camera slightly moving, etc. I really wanted to do more with this so I will be working on an extended version following the full script I had originally written. The developement of ALL the characters wasn't really what I planned, I only focused on developing the main character, the killer. The montage scene Is my favorite part of the film since none of it really makes sense or really ties into the rest of the film, the full script I had really put in a relation between the montage/nightmare and what was going on between The Killer, Conductor, and Detective. Sound design was a huge dissapointment in the film since I really rushed the editing proccess and with the copyright rules, it would take way to long to work out the sound design I really had in mind, so I really failed in that aspect. But it's generous of you guys to give me 3 stars. Hopefully you all agree it is my 'best film yet' since if it falls behind 'The Revolution' I just might give up. mini/lol    But yeah I am planning to shoot the rest of the film as an extended version and hopefully that will be released soon. mini/smile

Once again, thanks for reviewing,
KinzCove

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Kinzcove wrote:

But it's generous of you guys to give me 3 stars.

Yoder wrote:

One out of five stars.

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You didn't really needed to point that out Yoder, but SOME of us gave 3 stars.

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I think KinzCove meant the BricksinMotion rating.

And Yoder, 1/5 is a bit harsh.

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That was quite good. But It seemed very rushed and it looked like you had run out of time. Which is kind of disappointing seeming as you had about 9 months to make this film. The scene inside the train was a let down, there is no sound of the train moving or any visual evidence to show the train was moving. But it was still descent.

SmallTimeProductions wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if it was disqualified for violence.

That wasn't violent at all. For a start it was just a bunch of Lego people who bleed syrup. Violent would be someone bashing someone else's head in with a cricket bat, until his head resembles mashed up raspberries.

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Well yeah, not exactly violence, but bloody corpses, murders, etc. I'm not complaining, though.

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Yes, this film seemed rushed. The story idea was average, & some of the animation is a little bit choppy. Although, the train animation was fantastic, this was not the best film in our opinion. Overall 2.5/5.  Sorry if we offended you.

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Juggernaut Pictures, you're reviews are really negative, and I can't help it to just say: work on your own quality first before bashing others. To be honest, this entry is thousand times better than your own work.
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Ooh, burn.

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T.G-Tom has a good point. You don't have to make great films to be a good reviewer, however the things you criticize you can barely do better yourself, so it's hard to take you seriously.

Anyway about KinzCove's film:

It was decent at best, the story was a bit hard to follow, but, by no means was it average. The animation was mostly good, there were a few choppy parts, but nothing too serious.
I guess my biggest issue with this film is the sound editing, and the scene editing. The sound editing was just poor, something you should practice on for sure. And the scene editing made it seem like the film being rushed, making the pacing a little off IMO.

Overall, 6.5/10

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Well we don't mean to be overly critical, that is not our goal.  We also don't mean to bash.  But to be honest, we've seen people be overly critical on movies that are thousands of times better than there own. So all that we ask is that if you're going to say this to us than say it to everyone else who do the exact thing. And lastly, if you see up there ^ we rated this film higher than our own. We already know our films are not that good, but this is not our video. It's not wrong for us to critique his work.

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FYI, Roger Ebert, not a filmmaker, yet he criticizes and reviews films.

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Lechnology wrote:

FYI, Roger Ebert, not a filmmaker, yet he criticizes and reviews films.


Exactly, your point?

He also has a few film degrees I bet.

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