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Forums - Bricks in Motion » General Film Discussion » DISNEY BOUGHT LUCASFILMS AND STAR WARS EPISODE VII!
AnnoyingNoisesProductions wrote:It would have been pretty odd if some movies came out called episodes 4, 5, and 6 with no prequels ever being made.
I really hope you know that they weren't called Episode 4, 5 and 6 when they came out...
Actually when Star Wars came out, at the beginning of it, the scrolling text started with "episode 4", I guess to give a sense of it being a part of a much larger story.
Not particularly happy, but there might be some good things to come out of this ("LucasArts, please make more adventure games").
And about apisode 7, well, they'd better have John Williams in it.
Edit: Jargon beat me to it... wow, have I really been all that time pondering on such a short post?
No, Star Wars did not have "Episode 4" in it, nor did it have "A New Hope" until 1981.
George has always been known for changing his stuff just for the sake of changing it.
Like here, here is R2D2 hiding behind a couple of rocks in the original verision.
And HERE is the new Blu-Ray verision showing R2D2 hiding behind MORE rocks which also creates a plothole... how the hell did he get in there.
To make it worse, the rocks suddenly dissapears in a later shot.
EDIT: oh for god sake, the website f*ed it up.
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/arti … t-one.html There you'll find what I mean
Last edited by Lucas (October 31, 2012 (10:05am))
Its a dead horse.
I get the 'merchandising rights' part. Star Wars still makes tons of money each year via toys and games alone. Disney is perfect for merchandise - although I went to Disneyland Paris last summer (yes, I'm 18 - stop laughing) and there was an entire shop dedicated to Star Wars merch, and the 'Star Tours' Ride is still going as strong as ever (the ride itself is meh - but the queuing system is absolutely fantastic. You literally feel like you've just walked onto a Star Wars set). So the transition has actually been somewhat inevitable.
I also get that George Lucas probably just wants to retire (although, he's technically been in retirement since 2008), and he wants to avoid all the legal complications that happen when the boss of a company dies before passing the torch. I understand that Lucas wants his billion-dollar brand in safe hands when he passes away (which will be a sad day, despite everyone wishing death on the guy for everything he's made in recent years). Also: is this a hint of regret? Has Lucas realised he's become a man who's only made a couple of good films and has survived since by just re-releasing the same film again and again and again and again and again and again - and want to hand over the company like a murderer chucking the victims head into the arms of an innocent man saying "Look! HE did!"
However - NO! Has anyone in Hollywood heard the phrase "always leave em' wanting more"? The logic of that phrase it that if you drag something on for too long then people start to become bored with it. I suppose saying Star Wars has long since run its course is like saying the sky is blue. Everyone has established it and is fed up of pointing it out - so fed up we've just ignored it.
I was going to quickly make a Brickfilm parody - 'Star Wars Episode 7: The Jedi King', or something unimaginative like that. The film would basically be Star Wars only with all the Disney tropes; parents either die or are already dead, hero wants 'more', sadistic villain is a sadistic villain because he's a sadistic villain, it turns out the hero is the only one who can stop him, he rescues the Princess, and thwarts the villain and they all live happily ever after - ignoring all the hidden messages about racial segregation and stuff. However, I quickly realised that wouldn't be funny....because what I've done is basically summarise the plot to Star Wars.
Yes, Episode 7 and all the others will suck because Disney are going to play it safe, plus no matter how good it is - its still completely irrelevant. But, I don't think that much will change. All Disney will do is keep churning out merchandise, spin-offs, and any excuse to sell more merch. I'm honestly surprised we've waited this long for Episode 7 to electric-shock the franchise back to life, hold it on life support for a bit, then let it die and return beating its corpse.
This all being said - Disney technically owns almost all of Quentin Tarantino's filmography and they've managed not to ruin Pulp Fiction....yet.....
Unless Star Wars goes indie again, a masterpiece like ANH will not be created.
Star Wars never was independent. Independent is when you completely self-finance (or at least raise all the money yourself). Lucas only started paying for Episode 4 when it went over-budget (the same with Episode 5). Episode 4 was made at a time when businessmen who didn't have any idea about film-making bought studios. 70's American cinema is held in such high regard because it was a time when studio's were just throwing money at film-makers because the director had been to filmschool and thus the studio was like "You seem vaguely aware of what you're doing. Here: have $11 Million!"
the man that made the amazing music for SW being dead
Uh, John Williams is alive and well. So, the one thing we can look forward to is more incredible music. Seriously: I just flick on the Soundtrack CD to Attack of the Clones and I get a much better experience than the actual film.
The saddest part of the whole thing is that we might not get to see Episodes IV - VI in 3D; which is something I've actually been really looking forward to (even if I have to wait until 2015 to see Han and Greedo shoot at the same time in 3D)
Last edited by Max Butcher (October 31, 2012 (11:27am))
No, Star Wars did not have "Episode 4" in it, nor did it have "A New Hope" until 1981.
George has always been known for changing his stuff just for the sake of changing it.
Like here, here is R2D2 hiding behind a couple of rocks in the original verision.
And HERE is the new Blu-Ray verision showing R2D2 hiding behind MORE rocks which also creates a plothole... how the hell did he get in there.
To make it worse, the rocks suddenly dissapears in a later shot.
EDIT: oh for god sake, the website f*ed it up.
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/arti … t-one.html There you'll find what I mean
So? This has nothing to do with your original post, which claimed that the Original Trilogy films weren't known as Episode 4, 5, and 6 until quite a while after they were released--which incidentally Jargon and MPfist0 as well as I refuted.
This pointing out of minor changes is nitpicking at best, and doesn't really contribute anything. There are far more major plot holes and continuity gaps that exist in Star Wars that, if anything, should be addressed.
Anyway, we'd better get back on topic, as this has nothing to do with the original announcement...
Uhm yes it does? Mpfist0 said the original release of Star Wars had the text "Episode 4" in it and I showed a pic proving him wrong.
Last edited by Lucas (October 31, 2012 (02:49pm))
Star Wars is already long since "ruined" in terms of artistic integrity, it doesn't take away from the original films for me. George wanted the merchandising rights from the beginning with the first film, so it's not as though it wasn't always rather commercial. This latest news is pretty run of the mill by now.
Maybe with good people involved something good could come of it. Steven Spielberg has expressed interest in doing a Star Wars film in the past, and I'd love to see what Guillermo del Toro, Neill Blomkamp, or some other directors who have done good work in sci-fi/fantasy in the past would do with it.
Maybe with good people involved something good could come of it. Steven Spielberg has expressed interest in doing a Star Wars film in the past
I really, really, really, really have wanted that to happen.
Wow, that would be so awesome.
I would love to see Christopher Nolan take on the franchise in the same way he took on Batman (took him from his grave and made him awesome again which is what he could do with Star Wars). He also grew up with the original trilogy and made alot of fan videos in his youth (stop motion lego star wars videos).
What ruins it though is he works mostly for Warner Bros and I can't see him being able to tackle on another franchise just after finishing of 7 years of work on another one.
Perhaps with Lucas out of the picture we'll finally see a decent release of the original versions. The subtraction of his massive ego has got to make things in that arena simpler to sort out, right?
I was going to suggest a reboot but given the deeply rooted and established Expanded Universe, it may have to be a Star Trek reboot.
Imagine, no Jar Jar Binks, no whiny Anakin, no incest innuendo, no politics.
The only way they can reboot it is just by middle-fingering the established canon. But I doubt anyone will do that because then years of toys and games will be useless (although, they could probably just make NEW toys and games)
The best parts of the Expanded Universe are those that stand independently from the films. Stuff like 'Knights of the Old Republic' are great because the creators have tons of room to explore. The only way they can save the franchise if it a director goes: "Yeah, you know that whole Rebellion/Empire thing that revolves around this whiny brat who suddenly grows in height and breathes like he has lung cancer (when it SHOULD revolve around the farm boy who goes through a character arc bigger than the Arc-de-Triumph)? Yeah? Well this film has nothing whatsoever to do with that..."
Maybe with good people involved something good could come of it. Steven Spielberg has expressed interest in doing a Star Wars film in the past, and I'd love to see what Guillermo del Toro, Neill Blomkamp, or some other directors who have done good work in sci-fi/fantasy in the past would do with it.
It would certainly be nice to Spielberg work on it, but I can't really imagine Neill Blomkamp directing this. To my knowledge, he's only made one sci-fi film--District 9--and while this is probably one of the best films I've ever seen, its tone is far too dark, gritty, violent, and graphic for Star Wars, which have been for the most part family friendly films (with the possible exception of Episode III). I just don't see how it would fit together; while both District 9 and Star Wars may be sci-fi, both are completely different in almost every other respect.
I just don't see how it would fit together; while both District 9 and Star Wars may be sci-fi, both are completely different in almost every other respect.
I think that was kind of his point. If we're just going to keep making traditional Star Wars films, why bother changing crew?
Anyway, I think we can all agree that the only person truly worthy of directing the next Star Wars film is Michael Bay.
OK, the thing is, Disney and Lucasfilm can make the new Star Wars film as bad as they want to, because they know that no matter what, people will go watch it, be it to make fun of it, or because they legitimately expect it to be good. Most people who I have met who are opposed to this idea still say, "I'm going to see it anyways just to see how it is." We all did that for the 3D release of Phantom Menace, and we will most likely do it again. You know why? Because it's Star Wars. For Star wars fans, you kind of have to have seen all of the episodes, so you can either extol or condemn them. That's why I think they are doing this film, it will be a box-office hit even if it's no good.
So, who plans on seeing it? 
Star Wars Episode III was not so bad... In fact, I loved it 
Well, it's not the greatest masterpiece ever made, but it's not awful.
In my childhood, I enjoyed the original trilogy as well as the prequels.
I don't know what to say about Star Wars and Disney, but I was thinking about Brad Bird or Chris Nolan.
The only way they can reboot it is just by middle-fingering the established canon. But I doubt anyone will do that because then years of toys and games will be useless (although, they could probably just make NEW toys and games)
If they go that route, I imagine they'd keep the current EU continuity in play as an alternate timeline of sorts. People are too invested in it for it to disappear forever.
It would certainly be nice to Spielberg work on it, but I can't really imagine Neill Blomkamp directing this. To my knowledge, he's only made one sci-fi film--District 9
Edit: I should learn to read things properly before posting -_-
Anyway, as MindGame has pointed out below; it's looking pretty unlikely they'll release an unedited original trilogy, which sucks 
Last edited by Saminatorger (November 1, 2012 (11:47am))
Perhaps with Lucas out of the picture we'll finally see a decent release of the original versions. The subtraction of his massive ego has got to make things in that arena simpler to sort out, right?
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