Re: The Community Project Discussion Thread
I will take part in whatever you guys are doing. ![]()
I regreted not doing the last one.
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I will take part in whatever you guys are doing. ![]()
I regreted not doing the last one.
I really like ANP's idea; it actually has a chance of succeeding, since it doesn't require a whole lot from individuals. It's a fun project that won't interupt a film that said individual may be working on, since the clip would probably only take a weekend to make. I'm all for it. ![]()
Like MrLegoProductions said, I'll probably take place in whatever happens, I regret not being able to partake in the last one. ![]()
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ANP's idea sounds good, but if not done right it sounds like something that can become very cheesy. Just my opinion. Of course, I'm interested and would love to take part if I can. ![]()
The viewers would see these seemily random people showing up, and wonder why they're there. And then watch our videos to find out.
I'm not convinced. If I was watching a film with a host of random characters from other movies, I would feel disadvantaged for not having seen said movies. I wouldn't feel compelled to look up the source material, and even if I was it'd feel like someone explaining a joke to me after everyone's finished laughing at it. That's no fun. I also wouldn't enjoy watching the source videos because I'd just be watching for the sake of watching.
True.
But really, how complex is a bunch of bad guys running in, being opposed by good guys, the good guys win, and everything is set back to normal?
You'd be surprised. It looks like we'd need not only animators, but a script-writer(s), a troupe of voice actors and potentially a composer. Again, it's more suited to a film being made by one person: following a script doesn't really allow for much/any community interpretation. Even without a script, the modular plot structure (trolls go in one portal, fight, are kicked out, go in another) would make it hard to create a satisfying opening or ending. And if you did want an overarching narrative, you'd need a script (which I've just addressed).
Although if you do go with the trolls idea, msmiller36 has to be the leader of the trolls and Rocky Bubbles Robert our saviour.
Topit is who I'm favouring the most right now. He's got the right idea of creating something with a loose theme that can be interpreted differently by everyone, making it feel like a real community project.
Okay, time to weigh in. (Remember you're allowed to refute my opinion, just because I've done it once doesn't mean I'm right!)
I like minifig's idea, but I think Pritchard's expansion on it has highlighted a crucial flaw. We want the finished product to have universal appeal, which is something that can't be achieved if the film is just a bunch of in-jokes.
Let me corroborate / contradict this. I do agree that the idea is confusing in some ways towards the general demographic. However, it could be altered into a simpler and more understandable story rather than an imbroglio of characters and 'in jokes.' Presently, I can't think of anything that would change the story... but maybe, instead of the troll theme, we could have a different and instantly recognisable situation that would appeal to everyone. The idea of the different ways of performing in the scenario is a great idea; well, after all, that's what makes a community project, isn't it.
Oh yeah, and I love Topit's idea. This kind of qualifies my statement, though...
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In defense of Pritchard's idea, in my movies (at least), the back stories and such of many characters aren't really explained. They're just kinda shoved in there, and yet they seem to appeal to a lot of people.
Mr. Munchy for instance, is a Giant Alien Cyborg Man-Eating Squid, and can be introduced as such in one line. He does have some back story being an Eater of Worlds in the Red Zone until the Red Lord shrunk him down to a size fit for just eating people, along with some other stuff explaining how he got to Earth, but that's not really important.
Though, on the other hand, people with more complex characters would need to be explained better, or not at all.
I'm glad people are liking the moral idea. ![]()
Pritchard Studios wrote:The viewers would see these seemily random people showing up, and wonder why they're there. And then watch our videos to find out.
I'm not convinced. If I was watching a film with a host of random characters from other movies, I would feel disadvantaged for not having seen said movies. I wouldn't feel compelled to look up the source material, and even if I was it'd feel like someone explaining a joke to me after everyone's finished laughing at it. That's no fun. I also wouldn't enjoy watching the source videos because I'd just be watching for the sake of watching.
You have some good points, so I yield to your superior knowledge and experience on this. ![]()
True.
But really, how complex is a bunch of bad guys running in, being opposed by good guys, the good guys win, and everything is set back to normal?You'd be surprised. It looks like we'd need not only animators, but a script-writer(s), a troupe of voice actors and potentially a composer. Again, it's more suited to a film being made by one person: following a script doesn't really allow for much/any community interpretation. Even without a script, the modular plot structure (trolls go in one portal, fight, are kicked out, go in another) would make it hard to create a satisfying opening or ending. And if you did want an overarching narrative, you'd need a script (which I've just addressed).
A few things I want to point out are, the trolls would go into all the portals at once, and would be kicked out at the end all at once. They wouldn't run to one, get kicked out, then try the next, get kicked out, and so on. The trolls would also (with the exception of the leader) only grunt, growl and groan, so no voice actors would be needed in the community clips. And the middle part (where they're being kicked out) would be, most likely, scripted by the animator himself to preserve his type and syle of films. I'd be glad to write the script for the ending and beginning sequences. And wouldn't we need a composer anyway?
I have to say, Topit's idea would be really cool, although we don't want 20 people to animate their own part, as 20 different reactions to finding a wallet would get kind of boring. But if we have multiple scenarios...
I like ANP's idea.
Excuse me if this has already been suggested. Hearing Mighty Wandered say something about multiple scenarios makes me think about doing an Interactive Adventure, with each new choice being a different user's animation. This could prove to be interesting in my opinion to see a lot of different animating qualities and styles meshed together in an engaging way. Sure, we would have to come up with a plot, but I think an interactive video like this might be fun to make and fun to play. Especially if we could get a lot of people involved in the plot development. Any additional thoughts on this? (of course we would have to avoid any of the obvious pitfalls mentioned above of inside jokes carrying the story or one single person being the creator of the plot)
What ever we come up with, I really want to be a part of this. I keep kicking myself about not helping out with the last one. ![]()
I don't really like the idea of having BricksinMotion translated into a real world, and I have to agree with Hazzat. ANP, it doesn't matter wether your characters pop up in your films randomly, anyone who has seen your video has the advantage of getting where does that character come from and why is he there. I also agree with hazzat that topit's idea is quite good for a community project, as you don't need to know any film the animators made before. You can choose to use your sigfig or just any other minifig.
'Tis! I'm all for it!
I like ANP's Idea the best though
Hearing Mighty Wanderer say something about multiple scenarios makes me think about doing an Interactive Adventure, with each new choice being a different user's animation.
So now we have three really good ideas: Spiders, Mine, and ANP's.
To tell the truth, Spider's sounds great. It wouldn't be too complicated, or rely on inside material like mine, and it would have a central storyline, unlike ANP's. (well, storylines) I think this is what we should go with. Having a larger story behind it would also be more rewarding (to me at least) that just a number of short films stuck back-to-back. And with an Interactive Adventure, each one of us could just host his clips on his own channel, and we wouldn't have to send it all in to one person. Also, people wouldn't have to devote as much time or effort to it as the others. If you wanted to, you could only do a clip or two, and still be in the film.
I think everything really boils down this question:
How much are members willing to put into a project?
If they choose mine, but aren't able to do enough filming, or wouldn't want to do it, the movie would fail.
But if we were all willing to work hard, we could get anything done that we wanted to, no matter how complicated or involved it may be. Therefore, I think Spider's idea would be perfect, as any member could pick how much he wanted to do, and wouldn't be locked in to a lot of filming just to be in a community project.
With that said, would it be possible to set up a poll with the three main ideas and let people vote on them?
Counting comments won't work well, as some may like one idea over another, but they haven't commented yet.
I like the interactive idea.
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