Re: Brickfilming Discussion Week 5: For Mature Audiences Only

Sloth, you could present your views with a lot less bad-mouthing of people's beliefs, one shared by billions worldwide and also many young brickfilmers here.  A little respect for each others' differences is all that's asked here.  Remember the forum rules about courtesy.

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Re: Brickfilming Discussion Week 5: For Mature Audiences Only

I think he's just a little tired of being under-represented as an agnostic/atheist, though HOO I agree that Sloth could have been a lot more tactful and respectful in his manner.

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Jampot, that may be so, but it's no excuse, as I would neither put down atheists for their beliefs either, nor would condone anyone who does.  I would be equally upset with any monotheist who did that on BiM and would tell them the same thing.

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I'm sorry you've taken offence, however the damage I've seen these beliefs do to me and many of those close it me is VERY real, and as someone who has studied the Bible for close to two decades I find that god's behavior reflects that of an abusive boyfriend. And if I feel that I need to create a brick film about that abusive boyfriend relationship that god has with his church as part of my recovery processes there is no reason I shouldn't be able to.

And it still goes back to parents need to parent there children, not the artists. If a kid reads my post and parents don't want to or can't have a dialog with there child about it maybe they need to seriously question their faith.

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So the answer is not to stereotype Christians or other monotheists, just as I would be foolish to stereotype atheists for all the damage they did in the Russian revolution or more personal incidents where atheists have harmed others int he name of their religious beliefs.

And if you read earlier, I am in total agreement that it's the parents responsibility in the end, although you still had a problem in yr previous post if the parents believed in God and were instilling those values.

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I think if you wanna badmouth God then do so. If you want to glorify him/her do so as well. We are all free and we can choose in what we believe in. If you see someone post an offensive comment (religion-wise and etc) to you... ignore it. Because some dude on the internet said something bad about God doesn't mean you have to pick on him or start whining how he shouldn't talk like that. Everyone is just so sensitive nowadays... "oh you insulted my beliefs" oh come on if you're so weak that some guy insults your faith or whatever just by writing some bs on the internet then you should probably see a psychiatrist or something. I'm not talking about this exact situation guys, this is just common sense.

Re: Brickfilming Discussion Week 5: For Mature Audiences Only

I think we should get back on topic now, guys. We've all expressed our views on religion, and frankly I think we should stop before things get any worse. Plus, forum policy on respecting other peoples' religions or lack thereof.

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I agree with Jampot we should head back to the discussion at hand (if there is even anything left to be said).
As much as I enjoy debating comparitive philosophy, my experience tells me that the interwebs "just ain't the place fo' that." It gets to easily out of hand, and eventually boils down to name calling. It's too bad, but it's the nature of the beast.

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Larry Simmons, I normally do ignore the comments that persoanlly attack my beliefs, no prob there.  I am not offended or looking to be offended.  I don't offend so easily.  In fact, I take solace at such attacks, because Jesus said, ""Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.  Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven".  And no one is saying anyone shouldn't be able to make a certain type of film.  BUT, here in BiM, we do have rules on mutual respect for each other, which is also good advice for life.  I've broken the rules sometimes here, inadvertantly, and been advised by an admin or another user, to which I publicly apologize and move on.  Their comments to me weren't whining, and trying to keep things respectful here on BiM isn't whining.  I totally agree with Jampot and If I were a minifig, for the above reasons.

Now to get back on topic: We have and all should have the freedom to use the medium of Lego to express the art we wish.  If we start saying to someone, "you shouldn't use Lego to express this or that," then how long before the time comes when YOUR idea is deemed to be inappropriate?  Freedom of expression really doens't mean anything for popular or easy ideas.  Anyone can say, sure that idea should be protected" when it's one everyone accepts.  It's the ones that challenge conventional wisdom that need to be protected, and call for all ideas to be allowed to be expressed.

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That's all, folks!

Ba-da ba-da-ba-baaaaa!

Bring on the next topic.

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Re: Brickfilming Discussion Week 5: For Mature Audiences Only

I agree with jampot. Nothing constructive has been contributed to the discussion for the last page or so and several contributors have repeatedly veered off topic and have stooped to petty insults.

I consider this topic concluded.

Please try harder next time at keeping the discussion on topic, and please be civil to each other.

There will be new discussion topic Monday.

Re: Brickfilming Discussion Week 5: For Mature Audiences Only

Well said, Nathan.

Topic closed.

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