Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

I just noticed.
The BiM staff only rate the recommended videos.
Wow. I was really thrilled I would my video rated by the staff mini/sad
Darn. Please tell me this isn't true

Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

Psh, that's never, ever going to happen on this site, Zach. I think he just made a typo or something. He was trying to say 10. That's what happened. Don't say otherwise.

Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

Thanks for reviewing stuff guys. mini/smile
Can't wait until someone finally gets to Pirates Rule! mini/bigsmile

Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

Sméagol wrote:

and I'm reluctant to add reviewers who aren't very good writers.

Who are these ''reviewers who aren't very good writers''?

Some members are talented writers, I'm not kidding. Yes, most of the members are not able to do good reviews (like me), but the staff needs help... There are too much films in the queue for now mini/sad

Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

I'm only going off of applications we get.  We accept everybody whose applications are deemed good enough by the current panel, but there aren't very many.  Adding reviews never works anyway, people burn out after reviewing 4-5 films generally. That's why we're planning to just rework the review system so it's less labor intensive. I'd rather have a problem of slow reviewing than a problem of poor quality of site content.

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Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

Sméagol wrote:

I'd rather have a problem of slow reviewing than a problem of poor quality of site content.

The best is to have no problems mini/wink

When I write in french, I can write one ''professional review'' per day... and I think that each of current reviewers can review one brickilm per week, it's possible.

Just make a rating on the recommended videos, and make reviews on the ''Staff Favorites'', why not?

Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

That's pretty much what we have in mind.  I'd rather not have a system in which everything posted on this site has to be viewed by a staff member though, because this makes reviewers not want to keep reviewing.

So many of the films submitted here are of incredibly poor quality that having to watch everything that is submitted makes reviewers lose interest. I would like to use public user ratings to filter out some of these films before they get to the point of being considered for reviews.

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Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

I agree with you... mini/smile

Do you think these changes can be made this summer?

Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

The problem with that is the skewed user ratings.  They aren't very accurate.

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Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

BWJC wrote:

The problem with that is the skewed user ratings.  They aren't very accurate.

Yes... There are a lot of good brickfilms with a poor rating... That's a big problem.

Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

We'd monitor them a little more, and hopefully the new importance of user ratings would motivate people who care to rate films more frequently as well.  I'd like it if we could get this stuff implemented this summer, we're still deliberating somewhat over how exactly to do it.

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Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

I think it'd be a terrible idea to erase reviews on Recommended videos. Personally, if it got to that, I'd say leave the review panel altogether.

Like I said before, I'm free to do reviews, however I'm sure you'll still think my writing capabilities are !@#$.

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Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

It's true the staff members who were considering the applications agreed on who to accept and not to accept -- we have to set a standard somewhere. I'm sorry that we have to exclude people like this but keeping site content quality consistent is something we try for. Whining about it and using profanity while doing so are things that indicate you're not mature enough to be on the staff, anyway.

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Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

Let me point out a few things: first off, it was you who said adding new additions to the review panel wouldn't help - then guess what, you hired Lech and suddenly you're flying. Admittedly, other review panelists have started to increase, but not entirely.

Secondly, I understand and respect your decision to keep a standard going. However if you get some half decent writers, who enjoy reviewing and like brickfilming, then why not add them? I do not in any way mean myself, however why not other people? They might lower the standard, but:

  • 1. You'll get through films faster

  • 2. You'll make more people happy by having their films reviewed
    and

  • 3. You'll make even more people happy by enlisting them onto the review panel

And to be honest, is it all that important to have high standards? I mean, the people who will be visiting this website won't join because of well written reviews, they'll join because they love brickfilming.

Personally if you do decide to take onboard some of the things I've mentioned, then I'd say we could make this a win win situation.

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Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

Let me point out a few things: first off, it was you who said adding new additions to the review panel wouldn't help - then guess what, you hired Lech and suddenly you're flying.

Yes, for the first week. We have never said hiring new reviewers doesn't work in the short term. With no offense intended toward Lechnology, our new reviewers always churn out plenty of reviews- right before realizing how incredibly monotonous and somewhat pointless the job is and slowing to a standstill. The problem can be stymied, but can't be solved by hiring people. I can't speak for Smeagol, but I imagine he hired Lechnology because this new review system isn't developing particularly quickly and we need to deal with the queue in the meantime. 
   

3. You'll make even more people happy by enlisting them onto the review panel

This shouldn't even be an issue. The review panel isn't there to boost the reviewer's ego. It's there to review films.

And to be honest, is it all that important to have high standards?

If it isn't important for the directory to have high standards, we shouldn't have a directory. We already have public forums.

Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

Hey, I got an idea.
What if anyone could submit a review for any film?
But it wouldn't be public and official unless the official review panel or Smeagol went through and read it and thought it was good.

I think it's an interesting idea.

Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

Yes, but the only capable reviewers are currently on the review panel. In theory, reviews written by anyone else wouldn't be good enough.


edit: this is my 5,000th post. what.

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Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

I can see your points squash, but you did take what I said out of context. Anyway, I'm not going to argue my point because doing that would be pointless.

On a different note, I like Annoying Noises' idea. The idea of people submitting reviews and then a group of experts choosing the best sounds quite ideal.

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Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

Hazzat wrote:

Yes, but the only capable reviewers are currently on the review panel. In theory, reviews written by anyone else wouldn't be good enough.

Just trying to help out with some ideas. mini/smile

Well, you couldn't exactly know if other great reviewers are out there, so such an idea is only an assumption unless properly tested.

I could be an amazing reviewer, but I've never reviewed a film ever, so no one knows if I'm really that great (or that bad). He he

Also, Once a member review is chosen, it could be replaced by a better member review once made picked by the staff, or the staff, if no good reviews come up, or they think they can do better, they could write their own review.

I still think it's a clever idea. mini/smile Go me! >:D
ha ha ha sorry.

Re: When's the next time films are reviewed?

I can see your points squash, but you did take what I said out of context. Anyway, I'm not going to argue my point because doing that would be pointless.

If you offer up a suggestion, be prepared to elaborate upon it. I fail to see how anything I just took issue with could have meant something other than what I took it to mean. You wanted to point out that Smeagol hired Lech as an argument for hiring new reviewers, and I don't agree with that. You included the idea that hiring people to the panel would make them happy as an argument for adding panel members, and I don't think this should even be a consideration in making the decision. You questioned whether the Review Panel really requires high standards, and I attempted to explain why it does. Which of those three points did I misconstrue to mean something other than what you intended?