Re: Mac compared to PC

fib12345 wrote:

Macs are really only good for entertainment. You can't do any real work on them.

That statement is true, but as LittleBrick said, Pixar even uses macs.
So, yeah, they're mostly for entertainment, but can do some work-like things on them.

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Spudster wrote:

Macs are great for people who have never seen a computer before. For everyone else, PC is the way to go.

You are confusing mac os X with windows 7.

I'd get a mac, because I hate letting MS control every aspect of my computer, like in W7.

Although overall I prefer linux, but we are discussing mac right now, so, heres some info on both:

Windows runs a lot of software | Windows gets viruses, no matter what kind of antivirus you have.

Mac doesn't run as much software as windows, but, you'll still find everything you need, unless you are a really hardcore gamer.

It's a 1 out of OVER 9000 chance that you'll get a virus on a mac.

Mac software is picky about what processor you have.

Mac comes with both the Cocoa, and Carbon frameworks, which are the equivalent of the Win32/.net frameworks on windows.

Windows requires that you download the .NET framework to run some of the software.

Most macs come with Apache webserver installed. Apache isn't that great, but if all you need is HTML, than it can be used to host a website from your own computer.

Both have awesome server software that cou can get, such as MAMP, and XAMPP. The mac one however is a lot smaller of a download, and has the same functions as the windows version.

Garageband is a mac only software. There are windows rip-offs of it, but none of them even compare to garageband.

The mac os X install CD comes with Xcode, an extremely easy to use IDE for developing os X applications. There is an equivalently awesome windows program called Microsoft visual basic, but it's a little harder to use.

Most easy IRCD software is for either windows or linux. I have only successfully installed one IRCD on mac before, and since then I haven't found a link.

If you have an Intel based mac, you can run most windows applications using a program called "Darwine."

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didnt have the energy to read that all but since you typed alot ima just say that ur right and super duper smart mini/lol

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Meh... I would just get like a really nice Gaming AlienWare. Or just build your own PC. Like me!

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You do realise that Alienware desktops and laptops are in the same price range as Macs, right? Kinda defeats the point people were making about PCs being better option for those on a budget. Also, I knew someone who had a Alienware laptop - the heat nearly melted a hole in the casing and he had to send it off for repair (it left quite a spectacular scorch mark).

To add what Bruce said, yes, Macs are picky about the processor at times, but only if you're still on a PowerPC mac. All apps now come as an Universal Binary that works on both, and some are Intel only. The thing they're really picky about is your OS version, since people will code for a specific version and up due to some features only being available , so if you're still on Panther like I was until a few months ago, you're royally screwed for the most part.

I'll say it again - you do not need to ctrl-click on a mac anymore. I have a Mighty Mouse and yeah, it misbehaves a little if you left-click too close to the scrollball, and said scrollball will stop working from time to time (there is a trick to making it work again though, and it's not failed yet), but I can actually use a 3D modeller in OS X now without having to swap out for a 3-button mouse. The Magic Mouse is another matter, and frankly is a bizarre creation that I don't quite get. And Fib, you can customise macs as well - there's several freeware programs that allow you to change the theme and alter hidden settings, as well as add extra functionality.

Now there's a saying in the digital art area - it's not the tool, it's what you can do with it. Having a fancy hi-spec computer means absolutely nada unless you know how to make the most of what you have. Once you get serious about it, then you start shelling out.

PS: I'm surprised that everyone keeps forgetting about the Mac Mini. I find that a bit unfair, even if the first one I encountered did eat my CD. mini/XD It's only £500, which is actually cheaper than my windows laptop was even though it has the same specs and a better graphics card. For around the same price that my laptop was, the next model up has even better specs. I personally do not consider that overpriced in the slightest.

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Bruce wrote:

Both have awesome server software that cou can get, such as MAMP, and XAMPP. The mac one however is a lot smaller of a download, and has the same functions as the windows version

XAMPP do a lite version.

Bruce wrote:

Most macs come with Apache webserver installed. Apache isn't that great, but if all you need is HTML, than it can be used to host a website from your own computer.

If your planning just to use HTML/JS/CSS you don't need Apache.

Bruce wrote:

It's a 1 out of OVER 9000 chance that you'll get a virus on a mac.

That's because Windows is much more commonly used and has been in the spotlight for longer than Mac OS.

Bruce wrote:

Windows runs a lot of software | Windows gets viruses, no matter what kind of antivirus you have.

It depends how strict you are with your firewall.

didnt have the energy to read that all but since you typed alot ima just say that ur right and super duper smart

The amount typed dosen't dictate how smart or correct the user is.

The fact is PC's are cheaper and can be customised for simply a fraction of the price.

However, most software for Macs (excluding the default "Apple" software) tends to be of higher asthetical quality than Windows software.

On the other hand, Windows has more compatability with games which tends to be because Windows came before OS X and the customisablility of PC's.

The same OS battle has been going on for years, it's down to people's opinions which is best, for me it is Windows XP, because it's simply easier to use and more free sofware is avaliable for it.

Then again a bit of Snow Leapord can't hurt anything.

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wow man ur really smart

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Back in my day we used to have computers that were so big we slept on them.

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Blue wrote:

I'll say it again - you do not need to ctrl-click on a mac anymore. I have a Mighty Mouse and yeah, it misbehaves a little if you left-click too close to the scrollball, and said scrollball will stop working from time to time (there is a trick to making it work again though, and it's not failed yet), but I can actually use a 3D modeller in OS X now without having to swap out for a 3-button mouse.

The Mighty Mouse looks kind of weird, actually. However, I don't have a Mighty Mouse, yet I don't have to ctrl-click either. The nice thing about this mouse is that I can change it so it's a one button mouse, two button mouse, three button mouse, or four button mouse, all in the computer. Admittedly, I don't use the fourth button much, because it involves squeezing the mouse which hurts my fingers, but it's nice to have it there, so I don't have to have yet another annoying combination of keys to get to something.

To me, the Mighty Mouse is like those big pads on a laptop, which I never really liked because I don't have as much control, but I don't know how similar the two are, so I'm gonna wait until I get my hands on one before I make a complete judgement.

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If you don't by a Mac, you're racist.

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You're thinking of the Magic Mouse, which is the odd multi-touch one that really does look like a bar of soap. The one you have is the actual Mighty Mouse and the same one that I was on about. The "4th button" is a pain in the backside though because I kept accidentally triggering it, so I turned it off. As it is, I can't think of a reason why I'd want my mouse to do more than three things anyway.

Fun tip for the Mighty Mouse: turn off the light, lift the mouse off the pad and look at the light cast by the optical sensor - it looks like a mouse's head! That got a chuckle out of me when I found out about it.

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As a brickfilmer, you should be thinking about software you want to use, not what computer. Decide what software you want to use, factoring in the learning curve and cost, and your alternatives, then decide (based on what OS they're made for) which one will be better suited to your needs.

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I have the white Macbook and everything about it is much easier to use.  Also imovie is fantastic and way better than windows movie maker.  Also I use istopmotion and Final Cut which are also awesome.  Although Macs can have limited software, the software that it does have is awesome! mini/bigsmile 

Plus, c'mon Macs are for cool people! mini/sunnies

Pssh..... windows...:lol:

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Actually iMovie isn't as easy to use any more - what the hell happened to my linear timeline!? Where's my audio track, my video track? At least WMM still has a linear one.

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Plus, c'mon Macs are for cool people! mini/sunnies

You know, it's that attitude that makes everyone think all us Mac users are complete jerks. And I don't consider myself 'cool' in the slightest, so by that logic I shouldn't own one. I've been called 'awesome' before, but that's not the same thing as 'cool'.

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Arilion3 wrote:

Plus, c'mon Macs are for cool people! mini/sunnies

No. And, like Blue said, I'm a mac user (and Windows user olol) and I'm not cool at all. PWND

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iMovie sucks I use it in Media and it's so friggin complicated.

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iMovie does suck. It sucks BADLY. D:

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Fancy Pants seems to use it fine. mini/tongue

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Arilion3 wrote:

Plus, c'mon Macs are for cool people! mini/sunnies

So what would that make me? A cool nerd, or a cool jerk? No. You can't even classify a person into one of those categories, because there is no definition of: "If these are all of your millions of characteristics, you're a nerd."

But saying you're cool just because you use a Mac is just lame. I could say I'm cool because I can solve a Rubix cube without a cheat sheat, or because I am wearing a sweatshirt, but that doesn't make me cool.

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In many ways I am tired of this argument.

All platforms have their plus points, and all have their minus points.
Try and balance your choice based on the points that are relavent to you, and you shouldn't go too far wrong.

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