Re: Hollywood is Running Out of Ideas
Ha! Hollywood is having a hard time these days 
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Ha! Hollywood is having a hard time these days
Notice that it's coming out in 2012: The Stooges are the Apocalypse!
They should know that they can never beat Moe, Curly, and Larry.
We should probably start making some original movies so we can remake something in 10 years
I like how Duncan Jones, director of Moon and Source Code, said it on Twitter recently.
My gen of film makers need to up their game & establish some new heroes. These rehashes of my childhood favs are starting to piss me off.
Where are my generations Indy, Conan, Alien, ET, Han Solo, Gremlins, Ghostbusters, Terminator, John Mclane, Connor McLoud & Freddie Kruger?
That's not really what I said. Edgar Wright said it, though
Last edited by Pillow (July 2, 2011 (12:52am))
I understand that the movie theater industry is treading water due to the economy, illegal downloads, redbox, and loads of other factors.
I remember going to the theater see tons of movies in my childhood and teen years. Then I discovered free sneak preview via radio stations and tv stations in my young adult years (even with freebies, I still went out and paid to see flicks.)
But now...we pick and choose very carefully what we're willing to pay to see. If we think the film is remotely going to stink, we redbox it. Why pay an average of $10(USD) a person + popcorn + drinks if the movie has a chance of bombing?
And with the current *ugh* lineup of films coming soon, it's not looking good for anybody. If Hollywood made quality films again, then yeah I would go to the theater a lot more frequently than I do now. Sitting down in a dark theater watching films on the big screen, there's nothing like it.
The "coolest" Hollywood idea currently is making bullcrap 3D movies 
sure AVATAR is better in 3D but 90% of the 3D movies look crappy!
Hey Mr. Hollywood, 3D my A**!
If your movie is not able to immerse and entertain you without 3D: Stop making movies.
3D is entirely unnecessary. Either its really gimmicky and cheapens the movie, or its barely noticeable apart from making everything impossible to see. I may as well just watch the movie wearing sunglasses.
I know I'm going to get a billion replies saying "People thought colour and sound was unnecessary". I really dont care. Anyone who has watched the early sound movies and has seen 'Singing in the Rain' knows how long it took for sound to make a positive impact. Hollywood had to re-invent filmmaking for sound. Any film documentary will tell you how much had to be changed before sound movies stopped being terrible. 3D is just a tacked-on gimmick that gets us to pay more.
And 3D is certainly not a new thing. Remember the 1953 'House of Wax' (which is a really good Vincent Price horror). THAT was in 3D, and you can tell because it has that scene with the guy whacking a ball in the audiences face for no reason other than to show off the 3D effect. Nearly 60 years later NOTHING has changed! Sound only took around 3 years to catch-on, and colour roughly 20. 3D has been a very on-and-off cinematic convention, and every single time its been cheap and unnecessary. It didn't catch on in the 50's, it didn't catch on in the 80's, and it didn't catch on in the early 2000's. If it was a vital cinematic convention like sound and colour then it would have caught on by now! The fact it hasn't goes to show that films simply dont need 3D outside of Amusement Parks and Funhouses. 3D is for Captain EO - not for actual films.
!@#$ 3D! I hate it as much as 'Avatar'....
(Oh and the only reason I am looking forward to Star Wars IV in 3D is because its one of my favourite movies of all time, and I'm more in it for seeing Star Wars on the big-screen than seeing it in 3D. Star Wars IV was able to create incredible worlds with a warehouse and a load of models - it does not need 3D to be awesome because I have only ever seen it on DVD and it is this experience that has made me love the movie so much)
If its a Biopic like 'Ed Wood' and 'Topsy Turvy' - then it might succeed. But if its not, I will join everyone else in crying.
Last edited by Max Butcher (July 2, 2011 (03:15pm))
The "coolest" Hollywood idea currently is making bullcrap 3D movies
It happens.
People pay more for worthless 3D when they see it on the title then it turns out all cr@ppy
I don't see why people complain about 3D. They do it for money. If you don't want to see the 3D movie... Don't watch it in 3D. You do have a choice, you know.
The only 3D films I've enjoyed were Coraline and Avatar. Coraline is the best movie I've seen in 3D. It really enhanced the experience for me. The depth was incredible, really immersed myself into the hand-made world.
I don't have anything against 3D as long as it's not just used to gross more money, which is usually the case, but it can make movies better sometimes, I think. I've only seen The Last Airbender in 3D, which was really bad. But I heard Piranha was actually really good in 3D, for example. Timothy R has a point, you can choose between 2D and 3D, so you don't HAVE to give extra money. I don't think it's necessary, and I hate that they use it just as a thing to gain more profit when it really barely influences the movie, but I'm not enitrely against it.
Using it to make more of a profit sounds like a bad thing at first, but when
the movie theater industry is treading water due to the economy, illegal downloads, redbox, and loads of other factors
is it as awful a goal as one might first assume?
I demand the use of 3D in brickfilms. Let's outwit Hollywood.
Using it to make more of a profit sounds like a bad thing at first, but when
dewfilms wrote:the movie theater industry is treading water due to the economy, illegal downloads, redbox, and loads of other factors
is it as awful a goal as one might first assume?
1 Cars 2 (2011) $66.1M $66.1M
2 Bad Teacher (2011) $31.6M $31.6M
3 Green Lantern (2011) $18M $89M
4 Super 8 (2011) $12M $95.1M
5 Mr. Popper's Penguins (2011) $10.1M $39.3M
6 X-Men: First Class (2011) $6.68M $133M
7 The Hangover Part II (2011) $5.57M $244M
8 Bridesmaids (2011) $5.26M $147M
9 Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) $4.93M $229M
10 Kung Fu Panda 2 (2011) $4.17M $153M
Where I currently live, in the cinema there's not always an option to go to a 2D movie. Sometimes if it's 3D then it's 3D... I guess some Theaters just have a policy to pick one which of course has to be a 3D version...
Hazzat wrote:Using it to make more of a profit sounds like a bad thing at first, but when
dewfilms wrote:the movie theater industry is treading water due to the economy, illegal downloads, redbox, and loads of other factors
is it as awful a goal as one might first assume?
1 Cars 2 (2011) $66.1M $66.1M
2 Bad Teacher (2011) $31.6M $31.6M
3 Green Lantern (2011) $18M $89M
4 Super 8 (2011) $12M $95.1M
5 Mr. Popper's Penguins (2011) $10.1M $39.3M
6 X-Men: First Class (2011) $6.68M $133M
7 The Hangover Part II (2011) $5.57M $244M
8 Bridesmaids (2011) $5.26M $147M
9 Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) $4.93M $229M
10 Kung Fu Panda 2 (2011) $4.17M $153M
But the budgets are most likely more then that. (Cars 2 is 200 million dollars)
Also if you're complaining about no choice about 3D. Complain to your theatre. You are their customers they have to listen.
Yes, and it was just released. And the fact that they have 200 million dollars as a budget says something too. Sure, pirating makes them less money but they're still making plenty.
But I heard Piranha was actually really good in 3D, for example...
I can honestly say that's the truth! I've watched both Piranha 2D (at my home) and Piranha 3D when it came out in the cinemas and I gotta say 3D made it so sweeeeet! 
I don't see why people complain about 3D. They do it for money. If you don't want to see the 3D movie... Don't watch it in 3D. You do have a choice, you know.
Oh, trust me, I avoid 3D like the freaking plague. But for films like 'Avatar' and 'Toy Story 3' I have no choice since the only 2D showings are on at some really obscure time, and I'm seeing the movie with friends/family. With Toy Story 3 the only time I knew we were watching it in 3D was when Rex turned round and his tail went out into the audience - and that was it. 'Avatar' was a little better, but I didn't like it in 3D - and it was ten times worse on my DVD player.
Its actually worse seeing a 2D film that was meant to be seen in 3D. There were parts of 'Alice in Wonderland' that was clearly tailored for 3D - and it looks terrible in 2D. Similarly, Pirates 4 had parts which would have looked awesome in 3D (but I imagine you wouldn't see anything because 80% of the movie was shot in the dark, and Hollywood hasn't figured out that 3D glasses darken the image yet), but it looked really bad in 2D.
I've seen Captain EO in 2D (on Youtube, because I'm an MJ fan) - and with the exception of the dance sequence its terrible. But I've seen it in 3D and its passable. Thats fine with Captain EO and other movies made specifically for Amusement Parks because you dont want to see them on DVD/Blu-Ray. But DVD/Blu-Ray is how the other movies will live on, and its not going to be in 3D ten years later - so its going to look really silly in a couple of years time and Blackbeard is reaching his hand out into the audience in the hopes that 3D will make it a John Landis moment.
The thing that annoys me about 3D is that it makes the 2D version even worse. 'Black Swan' wasn't in 3D, 'The Social Network' wasn't in 3D, 'True Grit' wasn't in 3D, 'Scot Pilgrim VS The World' wasn't in 3D, and 'The Kings Speech' wasn't in 3D - and all those movies will live on because they dont exist for 3D. 'Toy Story 3' is the best 3D movie I have seen because the 3D was clearly the last thing on the filmmakers minds. Toy Story 3 was about the characters and not the whole spectacle, so in 2D its just as good because the movie does not care about 3D.
And neither should anyone else.
Last edited by Max Butcher (July 3, 2011 (04:49am))
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