Topic: Alternative to Masking?
We all know masking is a lot of work . But can you get the same effect from chrome keying the image with the object held up with blue bricks?
If yes do you have an example or someone who does that?
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We all know masking is a lot of work . But can you get the same effect from chrome keying the image with the object held up with blue bricks?
If yes do you have an example or someone who does that?
Yes, you can just key out the rig, but the result isn't as clean as masking. If you want good results, you have to do a good effort.
Thats what I figured out 10 tests later.
I don't know anyone who does that, but I can give you a method I use to make masking simpler. I call it Double Rigging. If I want an object to fall, first I take picture with a rig supporting it from the bottom. Then, I take a picture with a rig on it suspending it from the top. The object is roughly in the same place in both frames (I advise onionskinning to make sure it matches up). Then, I mask out the rig in the fist frame using the second frame as the background plate. It comes out a lot smoother than using one rig.
Seems like a lot of work! Have an example of a video you used it in?
I haven't released any videos yet, but I used it in the one I'm working on now (which will be my first released film). I think I made it sound more complicated than it is. Actually, it requires a little more work on-set with the rigs, but the post-poduction work is easy as pie. It comes out a lot smoother-edged, it's definetly worth it.
Could you post a picture?
No, I'd have to upload it to Flickr first. I haven't figured out how to use it yet.
then post here when your movie is out.
Oh and does keshen8 mask or do some other trick?
He masks. And is excellent at it, by the way.
He also does some rotoscoping: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotoscoping
That's a clever idea, minifig051. I'll have to store it away.
Thanks, Jargon. I thought of it because I use Stop Motion Pro's Rig Removal tool. It's a lot messier than using Photoshop (I don't have Photoshop). When I tried to remove one rig, it was really hard trying to erase just the rig and not what I want to float. When I used my Double Rigging method, it came out a whole lot smoother.
I thought I might as well post in this thread:
Keshen8 and a lot of other animators have used flying bricks. If there is ever an explosion, LEGO bricks come out of the fire. I noticed this with Keshen8's videos.
Do they just do it like how we would animate a guy flying (you erase the bricks), or do they do it some other way?
~Storm
I think it all depends on what type of look the animator wants to achieve. A more realistic effect would be brought through masking (if done well). But in the example you give from what I assume to be Keshen's Lego Black Ops, I think the flying bricks and grenade were added digitally.
I think it all depends on what type of look the animator wants to achieve. A more realistic effect would be brought through masking (if done well). But in the example you give from what I assume to be Keshen's Lego Black Ops, I think the flying bricks and grenade were added digitally.
Digitally? What do you mean (sorry, could you explain)
Was it like greenscreened in, is that what you mean?
Keshen8 only does rotoscoping. It's actually kinda obvious to tell the difference, the lighting is always a little different and the movement is a little smoother than the rest of the animation. It's a lot faster and easier than masking, but doesn't look quite as good or realistic in comparison with the rest of the animation.
Living LEGO wrote:I think it all depends on what type of look the animator wants to achieve. A more realistic effect would be brought through masking (if done well). But in the example you give from what I assume to be Keshen's Lego Black Ops, I think the flying bricks and grenade were added digitally.
Digitally? What do you mean (sorry, could you explain)
Was it like greenscreened in, is that what you mean?
He also does some rotoscoping: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotoscoping
So he takes a DIGITAL picture of the bricks and moves them frame by frame.
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