Damn, you've got to be half deaf if you can't hear it playing even DVD's, Tim's already said that his sounds like it's 'going to explode' when he plays on it, don't tell me that neither your own, or any of your 'mates' xbox's make a noise when you play on it. (Edit: I meant 'mates' in a way that meant you've been using it as a back-up for all of your arguments, not that I don't think you have any friends.)

Nope, exactly the same, and you could save more if you import it, and you won't have any problems with region-coded games, since the ps3 doesn't have region-coding, something that the 360 does. - I should have mentioned this earlier, being an aussie gamer, you'd surely know that we get charged way more than we should for games at retail, importing games from the US is a hell of a lot cheaper.

You mean everyone who had a launch 360 still has it, and in working condition? I'm calling absolute !@#$ if that is the case.

Hmm, okay, well thats what I meant when I said that the 360 can upscale to 1080, obviously the interperetation of the term is up in the air, I'll put it a little more simply if you like. DVD's cannot, under any circumstance, play Full HD right off the bat, only Blu-ray discs have that capability. Since DVD's can't play HD straight from the disc, this means the 360 has to do some internal work to blow it up to 1080. Don't give me any more rubbish on this topic, the 360 can't play 100%, real, full, native HD, or whatever. If you still think it can, fine, but then just remember the PS3 can handle it much better

So only LG 3dtv's will work with the 360? I'd rather have the option to choose any 3dtv on the market - a choice my ps3 gives me.

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Nope, it's over $200 more. $200AU for a 360 doesn't sound anything like the $450-500 for a PS3.

That's Australia,In the UK Xbox360's are around £150 for an "arcade" and £200 for an "elite". While 120GB PS3 slims are only £250.
So that's not much of a difference between them considering PS3 has Blu-Ray and free PSN making the PS3 cheaper if you get an "elite" with one year on "Xbox Live"

And that's another reason why Im getting a PS3.

Yeah no worries, holding a grudge over something as trivial as this is something a 360 fanboy would do.

lol, sorry.

Anyway, DVD's can't play true HD, they can only play at 480i/p. DVD technology is over a decade old, it can't play formats only created in the last 5 or so years - that was the whole reason blu-ray was made. Any other tech-savvyish person here can tell you that DVDs are capped at 480p. The DVDs xbox games come on, the DVDs you buy movies on and the blank DVDs you can buy from retailers, are all capped at 480p. While upscalers have gotten better, the DVD technology has not. The 360 upscales DVDs to 1080p.

Also, I'm reffering to the 360 Elite vs the PS3, the arcade and lower models are not even comparable to a ps3. The Ps3 may cost $200 more, but in the whole package, it's worth about $300 more. I wouldn't have an arcade for free.
Actually I would, who wouldn't? But I wouldn't pay more than $100.

Also, I highly doubt MS will even want to take Blu-ray in the near future, not until it becomes the standard format. Microsoft embarressed themselves backing the HD DVD, not onyl by picking the losing candidate, but selling a way overpriced external disc drive for it. And if Sony get a say in it, Blu-ray won't be arriving onto the xbox anytime soon - it's still a massive advantage the ps3 has.

360s are infact game-region-coded, some games are not, but a lot are. Go google it, there are a bunch of results with lists of all region free games and how to mod your xbox to be region free. All PS3 titles are region free.

There was some other thing I was gonna include, but I forgot what that was.

Edit: Just remembered.

The last-gen xbox versus ps2, what would you say?

Everyone picks the ps2. The Xbox had way more horsepower, but its library was abysmal compared to the PS2's.
Really, what dictates a systems success, is its library and the diversity it has. In my opinion, the PS3 has got this one easily. The only 360 exclusives I can really think of are war, shoot em-up kind of games and the odd racing game (Halo, Gears of War, Forza)
Lately, the playstations catalogue of games has been getting much stronger and diverse, and I should also mention that almost all ps3 games from the core sony devs are some of the highest rating games ever. You've got platformers (Little Big Planet, Ratchet & Clank), First Person Shooter (Killzone 2, Resistance) Action-y games (Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted, Amry of Two, Infamous) And a bunch of other games (Heavy Rain, Modnation Racers, God of War)

And there are a bunch of awesome games coming up. Gran Turismo 5 will knock the socks off of every other racing game in the world, Killzone 3, Resistance 3, Little Big Planet 2, Final Fantasy 14 & The Last Guardian)