Generalned wrote:0ldScratch wrote:Generalned wrote:Also just to ask you OldScratch how did you do those particular 3 films i pointed out? could please explain i really wanna learn i read your tips but yet i am still a little lost ill explain to you the part im particulary lost with ok you said i should film it right? but by filming should i record it after that short film and by filming i wont be able to move the hands right so what do i do there? im sorry for being a pest but there alot of your vids that i am deadset dedicated to and i really wanna be something like you any information on what i just asked would be great oh and when you say film the footage of yourself do you mean the lego or me in person?
When I talk about filming yourself, I mean actually point the camera at you in person and film live action video of yourself making the movements. When you look at that video of yourself, you can break it down and see how to do the same movements with a minifig.
As for how I did those films, for Red vs Blue, I opened up a copy of the RvB episode in Vegas and reproduced each shot from the original with Lego. The others are just regular stop motion.
Tryxx is right, BTW. More punctuation would go a long way.
But oldscratch what do you mean i dont understand how that would help wouldnt it be the same if i was shooting the lego without putting myself in it would it not be the same? :S and when you say you put the red vs blue dvd into vegas did u cut the video then just keep the sounds?
Thanks OldScratch
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Since it seems this question was passed up, I'll try to answer as well as I can.
I'm assuming that you misunderstood what Old Scratch was trying to say. When he said to film yourself, he didn't mean to insert yourself into the film. He meant that you should decide what motion you want the figure to do, film yourself doing that motion, then look at the film and figure out the amount of time it took you to do it. Once you have that time in seconds, you just have to multiply by your framerate, (example: 1.3 seconds at 15fps is 19.5 frames. Just round that to 20, and you know it takes 20 frames to do whatever the action is.). Applying this to speech, you would want to time the audio track you are filming to in a similar way. A tool I used to use for this purpose was called WAVTracker, and it did a good job; it even has a built in frame counter so you don't have to do the calculator work. Ultimately, you'll just want to scan over the audio, find the places where you want to emphasize something, and decide how you want to emphasize it. Another example: If I were filming the line, "Well then you can go do it yourself!", and the YOU was emphasized strongly, I would probably have the man gesture toward the person he is referring to violently. It would also make sense to emphasize YOURSELF, although not to as great a degree; perhaps add a head nod. This way you can apply the timing you have gotten from your self recordings to the speech and essentially allow yourself to do the acting for the figures, animating them to match your movements. The longer a motion, the more frames you will want to shoot, with smaller increments of movement. I would recommend watching over films by people like Old Scratch, Mindgame, and Keshen, and taking note of how they emphasize their audio through acting. If you really want, you can figure out what framerate they shoot at (not too hard, most people here shoot at 12fps or 15fps), and do the calculator work to find how many frames they used to make an action.
If you put the time into it, you can find solutions to your problems. Also, I hate to say this because I know it's beating a dead horse, but the people telling you to work on your writing really do mean well, although I understand they may not have phrased it in the nicest way possible. We can only help you to the extent that we understand you need help. If we can't figure out what you need help with, it makes answering much more difficult. You'll get much better results if you take the time to read over your posts and make sure they are legible. Again, I understand that it's probably frustrating to feel like everyone is ganging up on you for something you might not consider important, but it really makes an enormous difference in how much aid we can give you. If it's a real problem you could try to get someone you know, be it a friend, family member, etc... to help you make posts.
That said, don't let this incident discourage you from getting help on the site. You obviously have an interest in bettering yourself as a filmmaker, and that's great. Just remember to be flexible, try different things, and take heed of any advice you receive here. At the very least, even bad advice is worth a shot for the sake of learning. Good luck.