Yeah, I mean sometimes "Production" is used in a broad sense, but I'm trying to avoid doubling up on terms here...having both a "Production" forum and a "Production" subforum sounds hugely problematic to me.

...But that wouldn't make sense because they are on equal footing with "production" if we're talking about the three stages of making a film.

...*sigh* Things sure are gonna be different 'round here.

I'm not totally disappointed with this change--Smeagol did say he is bringing it back at a later date, after all--but I think it would've worked out better if you had tried stricter rules and what not before removing the forum outright. It almost comes across as a punishment, and while I'm sure that wasn't the purpose of the change, I could definitely see some feeling that way.

I'm going to be totally honest--I barely post in any brickfilming related forums at all. I peruse them every once in a while for some interesting threads, but rarely post. Whether that makes me a poor member or not is up to the judgment of whoever reads this. As a curious person, I enjoyed periodically reading and sometimes posting in the Coffee Shop and War Room to see how people who are mostly around my age felt about certain topics. As a member who was never deeply ingrained in this community, I can understand how one might feel like losing the Coffee Shop removes the soul.

But I think it removes the energy, rather than the soul. I'm sure more thought provoking subjects will come along in the brickfilming forums now, but there's no where to just talk with people. Yes, there's the chat, but as others said, it doesn't work as well as the Coffee Shop. Without the Coffee Shop, new members won't get a chance to personally know everyone the way those who have been here for a while have.

I realize most of what I said is irrelevant since the Coffee Shop will be returning in the future, but who knows when that will be. I do agree change was needed in the Coffee Shop and the forum in general, but I don't think this was the right way to do it...yet.

That's a pretty unfair statement for you to make. I don't watch the World Cup or Doctor Who, and I know none of my friends do. So let's say hypothetically, I did watch the World Cup and Doctor Who. Looks like I can't discuss that "outside." But where I can discuss it is on a forum with people that I already have an established relationship with and have similar interests to mine.

Or maybe my friends do watch Doctor Who and the World Cup, but aren't as into it as I am. Well, maybe someone on Bricksinmotion would have a deep discussion with me about those topics, then.

You see what I mean? And I'm sure most members here have fun activities to do "outside" and posting in the Coffee Shop isn't their only source of enjoyment.

It's a direct descendent of the hellishly immature and terrible 'refuge camp'. The Coffee Shop, what it became, was never the community forum of days gone by. Community forum will be brought back but we will moderate it more so it doesnt return to the unadulterated state which the 12 year olds dragged it down to.

Well, the 12 year olds and me that is.

I was going to post something in the Coffee Shop today, but remembered it is gone

I think that smily describes the reaction many had Tyler. But don't use them; this forum has to be more serious.

I don't think some of us would be here if we had that reaction