Topic: Bitcoin Discussion (and tipping brickfilmers)

I wanted to talk about bitcoin and a fun way it can be used in the Lego Brickfilm community.  Even though that's how this topic begins, if you have interest in bitcoin or any of its aspects, this thread can be used for any bitcoin discussion, so that there aren't a lot of threads all over the place.
 
First of all, is there anyone in BiM who uses bitcoin, or is curious about it?  There are web sites on the topic, "What is Bitcoin?"  The best can be found at "Make Use Of..." http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/download-v … in-manual/.  (download it in pdf: http://manuals.makeuseof.com.s3.amazona … _Guide.pdf )  Their bitcoin guide beats wasting so much here explaining it to people who may or may not be familiar with it.  Simply, it's a decentralized online currrency that's being used for transactions over the internet.  It's becoming more widely used; right now there's been an interest in it because of a recent spike in its value.

To get to the point, bitcoin is a nice way to tip people if you really like others' brickfilms.  Ham radio operators mail a memento to each other, called QSL cards, when two operators come into contact with each other.  Well, I thought a tip can be a way for brickfilmers to say to each other, "I like your work".  For instance, I like Joe Brickmond, and I'd send an amount like .0005 btc (about 15 cents) to show my appreciation.  And everyone who watches "Holding Our Own" should send a generous tip.  (Actually, I'd more expect negative bitcoins to be sent!)  A 10 to 25 cent tip is adequate.

People send bitcoins to each other from their bitcoin wallet apps.  Two free wallets that I like are MiltiBit ( http://multibit.org ) and Electrum ( http://electrum.org )  One good thing about both of these wallets is that they don't require you to download the entire block chain (ledger of all bitcoin transactions from its beginning).  Wallets will assign you any number of receiving addresses, like email addresses.  On your video site you can post your receiving address and a message that tips from viewers who enjoyed the brickfilm are appreciated.

Bitcoins can be acquired free.  New bitcoins (in large amounts of 50 BTC, worth about $16000) are created through bitcoin mining, but it consumes a lot of your computing power and can take a year or longer, and may never yield results.  Free bitcoins can be earned by visiting bitcoin faucets: ad-heavy sites that reward small amounts of bitcoins for taking a few seconds to solve a captcha.  For every good faucet, there are several bad ones. 

There's a list with only quality faucets at http://greatbtc.heliohost.org  I recommend using this list.

If you just visit the sites on this list once a day (takes about 10 minutes) and the Moon Bitcoin site whenever you have downtime while online, you can collect .0005 btc in about a week, and a lot more if you are more aggressive.  The rewards on Moon Bitcoin grow into something substantial over time if you are a loyal visitor.  Now you can tip your favorite brickfilmer.  You decide if you would only tip 4 1/2-brick (star) or 5-brick films, tip a brickfilmer as a whole, or create a personal tier system based on quality (.0001 per brick (star) for 3,4 or 5 bricks) If everyone acquires .0005 - .0025 btc to start, a nice litle tipping community can be started.

What are your thoughts on this idea?  ...Or bitcoin in general?

By the way, my bitcoin address is
1M5gjSu95JLnhy2FkmSe7h7eqy3MCdXRkX

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Re: Bitcoin Discussion (and tipping brickfilmers)

Personally, I'd much rather someone just left me a nice comment saying they enjoyed my film. The fact that people would really only be able to tip in such small amounts makes the donation feel just as valuable, in my mind, as someone taking the time out of there day to give me any sort of critique. In fact, I'd find suggestions on my films to be a lot more valuable than a bitcoin tip, honestly.

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Yeah, I'd rather get positive feedback than a meaninglessly small amount of money (ie 15 cents). We don't have enough meaningful, encouraging film feedback on this site, IMO.

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Thre's no reason we can't have both tipping and feedback!

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I think I would rather go looking for pennies on the ground

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That's fine.  To each his own. 

What's interesting is that since bitcoin spiked 25% in one day and 100% in a month, all those small payouts I received over the last few months are now something really substantial.  And it was just doing it just on a whim.  If you want to try the faucets out, the list again is http://greatbtc.heliohost.org  Just a few minutes a day help me relax.

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AquaMorph wrote:

I think I would rather go looking for pennies on the ground

Yeah dude, over the weekend my family was looking through all the stuff in my Grandma's old house. We ended up finding, in a case in like a drawer somewhere, a Copper penny from 1853. Basically uncirculated, almost mint condition, worth like $200. And they told me looking for loose change on the floor under vending machines would never pay off!

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Sonjira wrote:

And they told me looking for loose change on the floor under vending machines would never pay off!

Or by those change counting machines at the grocery stores.

I have never really looked into bitcoin stuff. It looks interesting.

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Sonjira, that's an awesome find!  Was it a large penny?  American pennies from before 1858 are large.  (British ones from around then are large also)

Rivvm M, Bitcoin is a pretty interesting concept.  I was curious about it because it has no central authority and its supply is controlled.  That makes it a hedge against inflation, to those who consider bitcoin as an investment.  There will never be more than 21 million btc, and right now, about 11 million are in circulation.  One bitcoin is worth about $400 right now (down from $480, the average this year is around $233)

I took some bitcoin I earned and bought this:
https://www.amagimetals.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/i/bitcoin_obverse_1.png

It's a 1 oz piece of silver that looks like a bitcoin.

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Wouldn't this kind of just be a more complicated version of something like Patreon?

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I'm not familiar with Patreon.  I'll know the answer after I duck duck went it.

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Kieren Barnett wrote:

Wouldn't this kind of just be a more complicated version of something like Patreon?

I think it would be. While bitcoin is an interesting topic to bring up, I don't think it would yield enough of a reward to be worth establishing a tipping system, or at least not yet. Plus a lot of brickfilmers, myself included, aren't all that familiar with this system of currency.

@HOO, Patreon is basically a crowdfunding platform, though it's different from Kickstarter or Indiegogo. If you create a Patreon page, people can pledge an amount that they will donate per project you work on (or per month, you can choice between the two). You can also set goals and rewards. A goal could be as simple as "if I reach $30 per project, I'll run a regular Q&A on my channel" (sorry for the lame example). A reward could be "pledge $50, and each year I'll send you an annual DVD of all my work from that year".

I hope my explanation isn't too convoluted. If it helps, take a peek at my page. It's still in the experimental stages, and I haven't really publicised it, but I think it shows the general functions of a Patreon page. (I'm also not sure whether I want to leave this up, as it feels dangerously close to mooching, but that's a discussion for another time)

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Thank, Jampot.  Yeah, it's different from Bitcoin, but the concept idea I had is somewhat like Patreon. 

The increase of bitcoin's value (now stabilizing at around $384/btc) has caused the faucets to get stingier.  Some of them are in proportion to bitcoin's value, so your earnings are the same in US$; a few others have gotten so tight they aren't worth visiting anymore, even for recreation.

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I had been looking into Bitcoin to use on a site I was helping out on and found it to be too complicated for the average user on that site. Something like Paypal which has a fairly simple set up and usage system worked better there. Plus having the option to receive payments from people without them even having to register an account with Paypal first was a big plus for that situation.

I had also looked into setting up a coin mine, but since I'd have to invest capital in setting up the computers (I didn't have any), it wasn't economical for me at the time (I'd have needed a fairly fast return on my investment, which didn't look promising at the time). Now that computers have gotten more powerful and cheaper, or for someone who has a bunch of spare computers lying around already, then it can be a bit of a money earner.

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Bitcoin is cool but frankly, I'd be happy if ppl just took the time to clock 'like', let alone leave money!

A better system is flattr:

https://flattr.com/

Far more practical.

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Dr. Neo Lao, Bitcoin can be hard to set up, but the MultiBit Wallet is really smooth and easy.  Just install, create a wallet, tell the app to set up a receiving address, and you're good to go.  After that, you just cut & paste your receiving address to whomever you're requesting money from.  MultiBit even has a copy to clipboard button.  Another thing that's great about multibit is that it doesn't require an entire block chain to be downloaded to your computer, which is a loooong task for wallets that require it.

I love PayPal too.  But one advantage of Bitcoin is that you don't have to give your email address to everyone in the world if you don't want to, and your personal information isn't shared like it often is under paypal.

I don't suggest mining for bitcoins personally, unless you really want to invest in it. But as a libertarian who knows that someone has to do it, I admire those who take on such ventures.

I'm looking into Flattr currently... a nice system, but again, it asks for a lot of personal information.  It is similar to the tipping idea I had, though, and it's a good way to say, "nice job".

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