Topic: To fill or not to fill ... in my mind, there is no question.

I learnt from this forum 3 point lighting techniques.  Here is the most useful page on the subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-point_lighting

It's been posted before but it is totally worth posting again.  I don't use three lights but I use two (a key light and fill light) and just to demonstrate how well a fill light works, here is the same shot with and without a fill light.  For some, the difference will be subtle, but IMO, the difference is huge.

https://copy.com/8nUlwHZSZJn2HNh7

If you don't use a second lamp, I strongly suggest you get an el cheapo from somewhere and give it a go.  mini/smile

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Re: To fill or not to fill ... in my mind, there is no question.

I see the difference.  Also so excited about this animation!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: To fill or not to fill ... in my mind, there is no question.

To fill or not to fill... yes, there is a question. While the three point lighting system, and fill lights can make things look brighter and better, you must always take into account where the light is coming from. I'm not saying you have to always be realistic with your lighting, but lighting is an art, and just a couple of lamps pointing at your subject do not make good lighting.

You should not use a three-point (or fill light) in every situation. For example:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3876/15109276855_218c781fc7.jpgInfinite Darkness by rioforce, on Flickr

Only one lamp was used for the above frame. It was meant only to illuminate the subject, and leave everything else in the dark.

http://bricksafe.com/files/rioforce/Brickfilming/DSC_0005.JPG/640x427.jpg

The above frame had 2 lamps pointed only at the background, creating a silhouette effect. No key or fill lights (in the traditional way) were used, because the main subjects are dark, while the background is bright.

It is important to note that the lamps do not need to always be pointed directly at the subject to create a fill light effect.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8578/15627837123_b400d48c39.jpgMine Lighting Test 3 by rioforce, on Flickr

I used small lights for that one, and bounced a yellow light off the ceiling for some fill. Thus, I still had a fill light, but it was not directly pointed at the set. Not everything needs to be bounced off a wall though. I created a fill light effect using a very reflective piece of cardboard. The lamp pointed at a the cardboard, and reflected right onto the set, creating indirect lighting. In fact, some people do not even need fill lamps, because they set a piece of reflective material (like a small tent of tin-foil) beside their characters, and the light from the key lamp reflects off the foil and fills in the character's shadow.

It's great that you learned about the 3-point lighting system, and about how important fill lights are. It is a very helpful tip for any animator, film maker, or photographer alike. A little warning, though, the three point lighting system can make your film look like a boring sitcom if you don't use it creatively.

However, you can still be creative and use the 3-point lighting system at the same time. For example,

http://bricksafe.com/files/rioforce/Stuff/DSC_0037.JPG/640x427.jpg

in this shot, a three-point lighting system was used, but I tilted the angle of each light to be a bit different, creating a nice reflection on the minifigure (see arms), and a good shadow on the face from the hair. The lighting is not strictly uniform, it creates an environment in that frame.

While it is good to have your subjects well lit, you need to remember (like I said earlier) to keep in mind where the light is supposed to be coming from. Not every situation requires the same lighting.

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Re: To fill or not to fill ... in my mind, there is no question.

Sometimes I put whit tiles down under the minifig to bounce fill light back on them, just remember your fill light does not have to be another lamp, bouncing light can be a valid light sourse.

Re: To fill or not to fill ... in my mind, there is no question.

You also have to keep in mind what kind of film your making comedy films often make there lighting very bright with few shadows well drama films often have very strong lights with high contrast and harsh shadows I am just learning this and I think its very helpful to keep in mind what kind of shot your filming. Also as Sloth said bouncing light can also have a very good effect.

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Re: To fill or not to fill ... in my mind, there is no question.

SlothPaladin wrote:

Sometimes I put whit tiles down under the minifig to bounce fill light back on them, just remember your fill light does not have to be another lamp, bouncing light can be a valid light sourse.

I have resorted to laying white a4 printer paper on the "ground" to bounce light up and eliminate unwanted shadows.  off camera off course.

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white paper is great and useful however do to the shinny nature of bricks I feel like you can reflect a bit more light then the paper, if paper and bricks to not create enough bounce you can also use tin foil