Topic: Black clothes?

In a featurette, entitled "Building Batman", on the bonus features for a Blu-Ray copy of LEGO Batman: The Movie: DC Super Heroes Unite, popular animator, Garrett Barati, claims that all stop-motion artists wear dark clothes when animating. If I could find the video clip, I would post a link, but apparently, it's strictly available for the DVD only.

I know this isn't true, because I animate with whatever I have on. If I'm wearing a coloured T-shirt or coloured pants, I simply don't throw on a black jacket just to get good lighting. And I've seen videos of other people animating without wearing dark clothing.

What about you guys? What types of clothing do you guys wear? Dark or light?

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I always wear darker clothing when animating, as it not only helps to hide my reflection in glass/the plastic, but, it also helps me to keep to a schedule when animating. (I've got my black shirt on, so, I can't procrastinate today...)

Besides, I think that the true issue behind your question was brought up in one of Nathan Wells' weekly discussions, as seen here: http://www.bricksinmotion.com/forums/to … ckfilmers/

The question that came up was "are we talking about professional animators, or amateur ones?" Sure, not all animators may wear darker colors, but, the more professional ones are sure to do so.

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I always wear a black shirt.  It's something that I've heard from several sources.  I think it does reduce flicker a bit, but I think lighting is the most important part.

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The point is so that you don't bounce unwanted light and colors onto the set and affect the consistency of the lighting when you move around.

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One question that I've been wondering a while is whether it's worth wearing a long-sleeved shirt.  I always wear a black t-shirt while animating, to keep flicker down, but it occurred to me that wearing a black long-sleeved shirt might reduce flicker even more as it covers the arms as well.  Since it's summer and fairly hot and stuffy in my animating room/studio I would want to avoid wearing one if possible (especially as all my black long-sleeved clothes are sweaters/jumpers and fleeces) so I'm wondering whether it would reduce extra flicker enough to merit wearing one.

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I tend to wear black clothes when animating, yes.  I've gone so far as to wear black gloves for a few shots in Perpetual Twilight because the reflection was causing huge issues in a few scenes where my hands would have been seen.
I gotta say, wearing a black long-sleeve shirt with the lights set up in a fairly small room really makes things hot...I have to take breaks to cool off.  Opening the window doesn't really help since the windows are blocked off, plus the door is closed.  Back to the topic...yes, I always wear a black shirt when animating.

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The point is so that you don't bounce unwanted light and colors onto the set and affect the consistency of the lighting when you move around.

Yep, exactly this. I find most of my annoying light flicker is the result of light bouncing off light clothes and skin.

Nowadays, I only work in black (and sometimes very very dark gray) shirts, though I don't care about my pants, since they are always dark jeans. I wear short-sleeves, because otherwise I get too hot, and I generally try to remain conscious of where I'm standing when I capture the frame to lessen the change of a reflection even more.

Changing into a dark shirt is a simple thing to do, and I recommend all stop-motion animators, pro and amateur alike, to at least try it.

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Black isn't necessary, but darker colors do help reduce any bouncing light.
I've experienced this personally while wearing a bright yellow shirt, but have done just fine with various blues and things. So avoid white and really bright stuff if you can and all should go well.

I've never gone with gloves or a long-sleeve shirt, and normally just film in a dark-ish t-shirt and jeans with no problem.
But what you need may depend on your studio and lighting set-up, as well as your willingness to burn to a crisp.

Though, animating in an all-black ninja outfit does have it's cool side. mini/sunnies

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I don't wear a black shirt. Where I live, it's near impossible to wear that dark of a color because of the 100 degree weather. When I have a set that I notice is extremely reflective (like a black brick background or dark gray), I put a black piece of paper with a hole in it for my camera on the edge of my table to cover me up. It works very well, because I sit behind the paper, and it keeps the reflection down. Sort of like what Michael Hickox uses in is videos, except I put it around my cammera instead of behind sue to the layout of my room and desk, and where I sit. It makes it kind of hard to animate at times, though, because I have to reach over the paper.

As for long sleeves and gloves, Paganomation's crew don't wear long sleeves or gloves, or even have back paper. But they do wear all black. https://www.flickr.com/photos/paganomation/4421180766/

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If a set is particularly reflective I will try to put on a black long sleeve shirt, it's a bit hotter but it works well in reducing flicker, in my city set with lots of glossy windows using anything less would create tons of unwanted reflections.

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Mickey wrote:

popular animator, Garrett Barati, claims that all stop-motion artists wear dark clothes when animating. If I could find the video clip, I would post a link, but apparently, it's strictly available for the DVD only.

I know this isn't true, because I animate with whatever I have on. If I'm wearing a coloured T-shirt or coloured pants, I simply don't throw on a black jacket just to get good lighting. And I've seen videos of other people animating without wearing dark clothing.

I think what he meant was was all people who do stop motion animation for a living wear dark clothes.

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What about you guys? What types of clothing do you guys wear? Dark or light?

I used to wear a black hooded sweatshirt but I found it too hot when sitting next to four desk lamps in a closed room and it got in the way of my hands so now I wear a black shirt .

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I have a dark green sweater with sleeves.  It's winter here so I'm happy to wear that.  mini/lol

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I always where black. It makes even more of a difference with LEGO than other stop motion puppets and sets because the stuff is so darn reflective. Even if you can't see yourself in it, I guarantee it's bouncing light all over the place. I've also pondered the long sleeve shirt, but I usually get so hot animating as is I'm not sure it's worth it. Summer in Southern California isn't exactly cold...

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I wear black even when I'm not animating.

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I usually find myself wearing a blue top rather than others. To me, it doesn't bother me it it's light or dark, as long as it's blue. I'm funny like that.

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I know this isn't true, because I animate with whatever I have on. If I'm wearing a coloured T-shirt or coloured pants, I simply don't throw on a black jacket just to get good lighting. And I've seen videos of other people animating without wearing dark clothing.

This. I don't see the point in getting changed to do an hour or even half an hour's worth of stop-motion, only to then get changed again. I also don't own that many black clothes, and my only black t-shirt is a Teefury Ghostbusters one.

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I usually duck down under a table so whatever clothes I wear usually aren't relevant unless I make a mistake.
If I'm animating all week though I can't really wear dark clothes all the time because I only have a few black shirts.

It probably would be better to wear black though just in case you hadn't ducked properly.
I sometimes think that it would be nice if I had dark brown skin so my skin wouldn't reflect either.
In times where I didn't duck, my skin has been a problem.

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I am extremely hot at all times, and I hate wearing those dark clothes when animating.

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I used to wear black. But as time has gone on, I've found that just as long as I don't wear something too bright (like white) I'm fine.

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I always where black while I'm animating. While I'm aware that some slightly lighter colors won't affect my film, I usually choose not to risk it. Besides, I've managed to score some pretty comfortable shirts, so I don't mind.

I used to use the technique where I would duck down under the table when I was taking each shot, but I found that, with the quality of my camera, there wasn't a very noticeable difference in light flickering. Would this be the same if I used a DSLR which captures more detail in each shot as opposed to a webcam? Not sure.

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