Topic: Hand-Shaking in Brickfilms (And their inventor?)

I've been watching a lot of brickfilms recently (something I love to do). And, I've come across a handful of them, now, that feature a hand-shake in the video. It's a really cool little trick, and, it's not too hard to do, even though it's not as easy as something such as a walk cycle. (Sometimes, you have to get the angle right to make it appear as if the figs are shaking hands, especially when they're not exactly opposite each other)

And, now that a question has popped up in my head, I'm on a quest to answer it. That question is: Did I sort of "invent" the LEGO hand-shake?

Now, I'm not trying to toot my own horn here, or anything like that, however, I'm yet to find a brickfilm made before my March 6th, 2010 LEGO JAWS 2 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH-gu2NvU00 (It's not very good, but, It's high point is probably the great-looking handshake in the middle)

I understand that other brickfilmers out there are also very likely to have the same idea, and roll with it. But, I think it'd be really cool if I was one of, it not the, first brickfilmer to feature a hand-shake in a brickfilm!

If anyone wants to shear their hand-shake animating stories, or has evidence of a brickfilm made before mine featuring a handshake, then, by all means, please respond. mini/smile

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Re: Hand-Shaking in Brickfilms (And their inventor?)

I think it's just something that several people came up with independently.  I don't know how many ideas I have that I wind up seeing like on Youtube or somewhere.  You know what they say, Dyland: "Great Minds Think Alike"

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Re: Hand-Shaking in Brickfilms (And their inventor?)

I would think a lot of people would come up with it independently.  Personally I'd never want to show handshaking in a brickfilm myself because I think it's a horrible habit which the human race should throw away entirely, and it usually does end up looking slightly awkward when a minifigure does it.

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Squid wrote:

I would think a lot of people would come up with it independently...

HoldingOurOwn wrote:

I think it's just something that several people came up with independently.  I don't know how many ideas I have that I wind up seeing like on Youtube or somewhere.  You know what they say, Dyland: "Great Minds Think Alike"

As I pretty much assumed...

Though, again, I am still yet to find a brickfilm that uses it before 2010. Perhaps I am still one of the first to do it, even if I didn't exactly "inspire" others to do it.

Squid wrote:

Personally I'd never want to show handshaking in a brickfilm myself because I think it's a horrible habit which the human race should throw away entirely...

Um, ok. I guess the same could be said about kissing, (especially in other countries, where kissing is acceptable on the cheek between two relatives) however, I think that some traditions just can't be stopped. Our hands are one of our most used body-parts, and, since we seek to connect with other humans, especially at first meetings, we naturally go to grasp each other - something I think evolved into a hand-shake. Not saying that it's specifically good, or anything like that, but, I think that it's not going anywhere anytime soon...

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Squid wrote:

I think it's a horrible habit which the human race should throw away entirely,

Funny. I used to view hand shaking in the same sort of fashion as you pointed out, but we must realise that many important events and agreements that shape our future have been made by a simple handshake.

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Dyland wrote:
Squid wrote:

Personally I'd never want to show handshaking in a brickfilm myself because I think it's a horrible habit which the human race should throw away entirely...

Um, ok. I guess the same could be said about kissing, (especially in other countries, where kissing is acceptable on the cheek between two relatives) however, I think that some traditions just can't be stopped. Our hands are one of our most used body-parts, and, since we seek to connect with other humans, especially at first meetings, we naturally go to grasp each other - something I think evolved into a hand-shake. Not saying that it's specifically good, or anything like that, but, I think that it's not going anywhere anytime soon...

I think the tradition was started as a sign of trust, that those who shook hands indicated to each other that they were not carrying a weapon.

I have passionate kissing in my brickfilm  (go to 2:08)

http://vimeo.com/77134501

(and again at 16:54)

Does anyone else have kissing in their films?  I know the answer's yes, but wondering who else's they are.

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Re: Hand-Shaking in Brickfilms (And their inventor?)

HoldingOurOwn wrote:

Does anyone else have kissing in their films?  I know the answer's yes, but wondering who else's they are.

I'd like to keep this discussion on topic with the subject of hand-shaking. However, I will answer your question: Yes and no for me.

I have animated brickfilms/tests that contain characters kissing, however, I've never released them. (Unless a short clip of one made it in my retrospective video seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeQEBu5Fa5U ) Kissing is usually much easier than hand-shaking to animate, unless the character has a hat or some other oddly shaped hair.

I think that the kissing issue could all go back to Nathan's weekly discussion 7, again, as, since there aren't very many, if any, female voice actresses, then, there aren't as many females featured in brickfilms. Thus, kissing wouldn't really needed, as there'd be less situations calling for it. (And, there aren't many reasons for kissing in a brickfilm as it is!)

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Re: Hand-Shaking in Brickfilms (And their inventor?)

Derrick and Alice kiss multiple times in Flashbacks: Redux. It's really not that hard to animate.

Dyland, regarding your original question, I can guarantee that animating hand shakes the way you describe has been happening since the early years of brickfilming. I just can't find any films to back it up at the moment.

Re: Hand-Shaking in Brickfilms (And their inventor?)

Nathan Wells wrote:

Dyland, regarding your original question, I can guarantee that animating hand shakes the way you describe has been happening since the early years of brickfilming. I just can't find any films to back it up at the moment.

As I had assumed, but, just a few years ago, when I started seeing more handshakes in film, I realized that I couldn't find a film that featured one, made before 2010. I'd love to be able to find a brickfilm made before mine that features one. - Now I'm on my quest. mini/sunnies

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Re: Hand-Shaking in Brickfilms (And their inventor?)

Nathan Wells wrote:

Dyland, regarding your original question, I can guarantee that animating hand shakes the way you describe has been happening since the early years of brickfilming. I just can't find any films to back it up at the moment.

Off the top of my head, Good Company had a pretty good one.

In short, Dyland, no, you did not innovate the minifig handshake, though handshakes in brickfilms do seem to be something of a rarity.

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Re: Hand-Shaking in Brickfilms (And their inventor?)

MindGame wrote:

Off the top of my head, Good Company had a pretty good one.

AWESOME! Now I've got another brickfilm to watch, that was made before one of mine, and not feel ripped-off in any way. mini/tongue

But, seriously, thank you MindGame. It's awesome that that could be settled pretty quickly - I'm glad I posted this thread now. mini/smile Thanks for the help everybody!

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Dyland wrote:

I guess the same could be said about kissing, (especially in other countries, where kissing is acceptable on the cheek between two relatives)

Also, total strangers. Very surreal to meet a young woman in Peru and instantly be kissed on both cheeks like it was a high-five.

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Re: Hand-Shaking in Brickfilms (And their inventor?)

I did minifigure handshakes back in 2008 just like you did, although I don't have any of those old films uploaded anywhere. I think we can safely say that you're not the first one to do it. mini/wink

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