Topic: Iron Man and some newbie After Effects help(from Avengers trailer)

I've just began to work on the Avengers trailer again and am starting to reshoot some older stuff since it was in a terrible ratio (I've switched to 16:9) and I have a new webcam.  I'm shooting at 24 frames a second so I can match the audio correctly from the actual trailer.  I'm using this version here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY9DnBNJFTI
I need some help figuring out what to do for some specific FX, like Iron Man flying at 1:44 on.  I have After Effects CS6.

I'm thinking of something like building a town in MINI or maybe even MIDI scale, and I can do the camera movements through the city during the flying scenes.  I can do some in camera motion blur during that and I think that would turn out well.  Then I could hook Iron Man up to a rig so I can have him spin and roll and have some movement (he'd be on a greenscreen), and then I could use the greenscreen to put Iron Man flying through the MINI/MIDI scale town (I can add the chitari the same way).
I will add the explosions and things using Action Essentials.

So I'm wondering, do you think this will work as a realistic way of that scene?  What about the repulser/jet thrusters, how do you think I could add this with After Effects? 

And then a newbie to AE questions: How can I mask in AE when doing a stopmotion?  Do you have know any tutorials?

I asked something like this before but never really got a helpful answer; please try and help me if you can (if you have suggestions as to any other FX in the trailer, please leave suggestions!).

Thank you!

Re: Iron Man and some newbie After Effects help(from Avengers trailer)

Anyone?  I would really appreciate a little help...!

Re: Iron Man and some newbie After Effects help(from Avengers trailer)

Well, I haven't got After Effects; but I know as long as you've got a good green screen, it should look pretty good.
If you do go for green screen, make sure that the lighting in the green screen is the same as your shot of going though the city.

Re: Iron Man and some newbie After Effects help(from Avengers trailer)

What you mentioned for the flying scene could work, although it might look a bit weird having a full scale figure on a smaller scale set. As for the VFX, using the green screen could be a pain. You have to make sure you have consistent lighting on the screen while making sure no light bounces off of it onto your figure. If you don't have consistent lighting, there could be spots of green left over when you try to key it out. If any green light spills onto the figure, AE could mistake it as part of the green screen and key it out, making your figure have missing chunks. But if you do all of this right and light your screen and figure correctly, you could get a pretty nice shot.

As for the thruster effects, there probably is a tutorial out there somewhere detailing step-by-step how to achieve that effect, but a useful site for anything AE-related is VideoCopilot. They don't have a tutorial explaining the specific effect you want, but you can combine different aspects of separate tutorials to create that thruster effect. They also have a a section dedicated to basic tutorials so you can learn the fundamentals of After Effects. There's also a forum on the site but I've never really had a good look at it. But upon first glance, tt seems like a pretty busy forum and you could probably find some answers to any AE-related questions you might have in the future. I hope this helped! And good luck on your film.

Re: Iron Man and some newbie After Effects help(from Avengers trailer)

I need a tutorial for AE.  I tried on my own, but all the Adobe software has such a steep learning curve.  And I was able to figure out PhotoShop!

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Re: Iron Man and some newbie After Effects help(from Avengers trailer)

HoldingOurOwn wrote:

I need a tutorial for AE.  I tried on my own, but all the Adobe software has such a steep learning curve.  And I was able to figure out PhotoShop!

try http://www.videocopilot.net/ they have good beginner and advanced tutorials thats how i learned AE. by the way im new here so sorry if the link doesnt work mini/lol

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Re: Iron Man and some newbie After Effects help(from Avengers trailer)

masterlego wrote:
HoldingOurOwn wrote:

I need a tutorial for AE.  I tried on my own, but all the Adobe software has such a steep learning curve.  And I was able to figure out PhotoShop!

try http://www.videocopilot.net/ they have good beginner and advanced tutorials thats how i learned AE. by the way im new here so sorry if the link doesnt work mini/lol

Welcome to the club!

Any-who, for green screening Iron-Man, you want to make sure that the minifigure is not too close to the screen where it can pick up green reflections, and about 2 feet shall do the trick. I think that the small scale buildings would look great if blurred and out of focus, or maybe just blurred. Play with it a bit mini/wink . For the thrusters, I think THat taping or tack-ing various shades of orange 1x1 cones like these

http://s.ecrater.com/stores/196820/4f0a3b82a5e8c_196820n.jpg
Underneath his feet. Then, go into after effects and tint everything that gets close to him (like his legs and a passing by alien thing) slightly orange, perhaps adding a simple wiggle expression to the opacity as well.

http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag121/CavemanIncorporated/BiM_Sig_Monkey_zpse6d51622.jpg

Re: Iron Man and some newbie After Effects help(from Avengers trailer)

Caveman Incorporated wrote:
masterlego wrote:
HoldingOurOwn wrote:

I need a tutorial for AE.  I tried on my own, but all the Adobe software has such a steep learning curve.  And I was able to figure out PhotoShop!

try http://www.videocopilot.net/ they have good beginner and advanced tutorials thats how i learned AE. by the way im new here so sorry if the link doesnt work mini/lol

for green screening Iron-Man, you want to make sure that the minifigure is not too close to the screen where it can pick up green reflections

I use a blue screen for it because lego people are yellow and thats close to green. Also get some other bricks and position them out of the camera view, so the light reflects off of those pieces and on to the subject overpowering the green or blue tint. Also make shore you color correct before keying it out. Again, video copilot has some great tutorials on chroma keying.

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