Topic: Top 5 Heroes and Villains?

Who do you think are the best five heroes and villains?  They should be mainly from films (seeing as this is the General Film forum), but you can also include ones from TV shows or books if you want.

I might post mine later, as I still need to think of a few.

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Jafar from Aladin is a great villain.

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Nicolae Carpathia from the Left Behind series.  Villain.

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Darth Vader.

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Bane from The Dark Knight Rises

To contrast I might aswell add Batman as the Hero

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Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg from The Fifth Element.

John Marston from the Red Dead Redemption.

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In cinema, Darth Vader as a villain, Babe from Babe and Babe: Pig in the City as a hero.

In literature, Alyosha from The Brothers Karamazov as a hero.

I feel strongly about the examples I just cited, but it does occur to me that I have a hard time thinking of many favorite characters who really seem like great "heroes" or great "villains." More great villains than heroes, certainly. I think a lot of my favorite characters fall into something more complicated, in the middle. For instance, I can't comfortably put Michael Corleone in either category.

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Pepper frickin' Clark from littlest pet shop as a hero

she's the best

and a wicked comedienne

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Just Kidden wrote:

Pepper frickin' Clark from littlest pet shop as a hero

she's the best

and a wicked comedienne

I just threw up in my mouth a little

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I have to pick a hero now..................Rorshach from the Watchmen comicbook.

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Sméagol wrote:
Just Kidden wrote:

Pepper frickin' Clark from littlest pet shop as a hero

she's the best

and a wicked comedienne

I just threw up in my mouth a little

i think you're just jealous that a SKUNK is FUNNIER than YOU are

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JK has a point.

WELL
Heroes:

Rurouni Kenshin.  He was once a manslayer and then he took a vow to never kill again, but still fights lots of bad guys and helps people out.  I really like heroes like him who don't kill the bad guys.  It makes them different from them.

Also, Batman, L, The Doctor, and Samurai Jack.

Villains:

Rumpelstiltskin from Once upon a Time.

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He not actually always villainous, sometimes he can be a good guy, but he has a really interesting personality and a whole lot of style.  I'm not really sure how to explain it, but he's really cool.
Once upon a Time is a really brilliant show almost entirely due to him.

Also, Light Yagami, Darth Vader, the Joker, and Zuko.

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Hands down Batman & Superman.
Villians The Joker
Darth Vader & Movie Bane.

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Joffrey Baratheon/Lannister, one of the most easily hate-able characters I've ever come across, he's such a vile, sadistic, cruel little poo.

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Carousel wrote:

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Joffrey Baratheon/Lannister, one of the most easily hate-able characters I've ever come across, he's such a vile, sadistic, cruel little poo.


Yes, he is just the worst kind of person.

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Villains:

Hans Landa and Daniel Plainview: they are the worst kind of people I can think of, they're bad because the choose to be.

Darth Vader, Hal 9000, Roy Batty: I consider them to be victims rather than actual villains (especially Hal 9000, who was given conflicting orders by its creators), and that's why they're not on top of the list, though they are compelling characters and easily become some of the most iconic bad guys in movies. That's why they're here.

Heroes (this is a much more difficult list to make):

Rick Blaine, Indiana Jones... that's what I can think of for now.

I'll probably change a few things on both lists in the future.

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Villain:Nina Myers from 24!  I wrote a song about how nasty she is!

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Heroes: The Doctor, Batman, Iron Man, Flash, and Wonder Woman.

Villains: I have to agree with Squid that Rumpelstiltskin from Once Upon a Time is a great villain. Also, The Joker, Jim Carry Riddler, The Master, and Deadpool (He isn't really a villain, more of a anti hero, but, whatever)

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Wowow, it seems as if everybody likes villains way better than heroes! mini/bigsmile

If I had to say,

Heroes: Scott Pilgrim, Sherlock & John, Amélie Poulain, Aquaman, Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III
Villains: Loki, Cthulhu, HAL9000, Frankenstein's Monster (from the book, not the movie!! And he isn't really villainous, just ignorant) and maybe that bird thing from Kung Fu Panda and maybe the penguin from batman

I'm more sure about heroes than villains. I like well-developed characters, but I can't stand characters who are jerks! The villains I listed are at least pretty nice guys albeit evil. If that makes any sense. Like if you were on their side you would want to be their friend. Not sure how that works for Cthulhu really though.

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I actually prefer people who are neither. I like 'everyman' characters who are just trying to live their lives but get thrust into a conflict. Basically: I love characters who aren't trying to be heroes or villains. People like Winston Smith, Sam Lowry, Oliver Tate, and Arthur Dent are compelling because they are not good or evil - they are just human. I also like characters who are supposed to be the hero, but keep refusing - people like Garret from the Thief series, and Rincewind from the Discworld book series.

I also love people who are not villains, but are just loveable jerks. This includes people like Basil Fawlty (from Fawlty Towers), Otto (from A Fish Called Wanda), Zarphod Beeblebrox (from A Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy) and everyone Bill Murray has ever played.

Also, where do I put people like Charles Foster Kane, Dorian Gray (from The Picture of Dorian Gray), Barry Lyndon, Stanhope (from Journeys End), Victor Frankenstein (the book version), or Miss Jean Brodie (from The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie) - the book, not the film)? These are characters who began as heroes but can no longer be classified as such.

Honestly, one of my favourite characters ever is Adolf Hitler from Downfall. Its extremely disappointing that no-one remembers this movie apart from the 'Hitler Reacts' scene, because its sublime. With the over abundance of two-dimensionally evil Nazis in literature/film/TV/games, its surprising to see something acknowledge that the Nazis were actual humans and not robots from outer space, and even more surprising that - whilst the film doesn't make Hitler sympathetic - the film makes us try to understand Hitler in his last days alive. What I like even more is that when Hitler dies, the film keeps going - because everyone seems to assume that Hitler was like a Sauron when in reality he was just a solitary human with disturbingly twisted morals who somehow gained power. He doesn't count as a villain, but he's obviously not a hero.

Heroes:
1. Alonso Quijano/Don Quixote (from Don Quixote)
2. Atticus Finch (from To Kill a Mockingbird)
3. Ed Wood
4. JC Denton (from Deus Ex)
5. Either Han Solo or Luke Skywalker (I can't pick my favourite. They are both compelling in their own different ways)

Runners up include: Ico and Yorda (from ICO), Princess Mononoke, V (from V For Vendetta - the book, not the crappy film that completely missed the point), The Man With No Name, and anyone Kurt Russell has ever played.

Villains:
1. Salieri (from Amadeus)
2. Richard III
3. Big Brother (from 1984)
4. Alex (from A Clockwork Orange)
5. GlaDOS (from Portal/Portal 2)

Runners up include: Nurse Ratched (from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest), Norman Bates (from Psycho), Herr Flick (from Allo' Allo'), Death (from the Discworld series), anyone Alan Rickman has ever played, and anyone Christopher Lee has ever played (including Lord Summersisle from The Wicker Man).

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