Topic: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

What do I do now, I just bough myself a D-SLR, and i'm kinda worried, as I hear you can't plug in the camera with a usb cord into the computer and still use the camera at the same time, so is there no chance of onion skinning and other frame software?

Also I notice with digital cameras the quality of images are always around 1-2 megabytes each what can I do to lower the frame to a normal Jpeg size?

Are DSLRs good for just stop motion? As that is what I want the purpose for it to be, what do the lens do?

Why are DSLRs known as one of the best types of cameras?

All tips and feedback would be very much appreciated!

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Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

I believe a lot of software is compatible with DSLRs (fire-wire is the old way, but most have a display port). Check the compatible cameras on you software (if you use any). Otherwise check to see if you have a remote shutter and do it without onion skinning or software, like me (prepare to do shots over a lot).

1-2 megabytes is low for file size. My raw images are 5 megs if I'm lucky, but usually they're around 7 (max I had was 11). Storing them on an external drive is recommended. They aren't expensive and you can get one very cheaply on a blowout sale.

They are good for stop-motion because of their relative compactness, manual settings and overall very high image quality. The function of the lens depends on the shot. For brickfilming a macro (close-up) lens would be recommended. Sadly I don't have any further knowledge on them because I don't use them myself (I use a camcorder, not recommended).

They are known to be the best types of camera for photography simply because they have the highest quality.

For more info, the folks over at The D-SLR discussion can fill you in.

Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

DSLR cameras are great for stop motion, and yes you can plug them in and use them in a stop motion program, in fact a lot of stop motion programs are mostly specifically designed for DSLRs.

Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

Hey there Keesret and MrMingleProductions thanks for your reply!

When you say software are you referring to monkeyjam Helium frog, and so on and I still don't really understand as I asked the people and they said if you have your DSLR imported you cannot take photos, its just for sending photos to the comp is this true?

Really 5 megabytes wow! you don't lower the image zize into kb while maintaining good quality pics?

What stop motion programs support the DSLR?

Thanks again,

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Thank you for your great reviews!

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Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

MJ and HF do not work with DSLRs. StopMotionPro, Dragonframe and AnimatorHD do however.
The only free option for animating with a DSLR is using the camera software to take the pictures, and then stringing them all together later.

Lowering the image size or heavily compressing them would destroy most of the advantages of using a DSLR. If you want quality, you're just going to have to bit the bullet on that point.

There are innumerable threads here on BiM related to DSLRs, the capture programs and techniques needed, and the other complications that come with a more professional set up like that. A few minutes of searching should help answer most of your questions.


And aren't there several brickfilmers who just use the default lens that comes with the thing?

Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

First of all, it would be helpful to know what DSLR you have. Most DSLRs can be connected to your computer and operated remotely while plugged in. Onion-skinning is only a possibility if your SLR and frame capture software support it. I own a Canon T2i and use the software that it came with to control it remotely while it is plugged up.

DSLRs are not used specifically for stop-motion, it's just one of the things they are great for. The primary use of DSLRs is for photography and, more recently, live action filmmaking. The fact that there are interchangeable lenses gives you a huge range of possibilities. Most likely the standard kit lens that came with your SLR will work fine for Brickfilming, but it really depends. A macro lens would be beneficial for close shots of minifigures and other elements. Prime lenses aren't really that good to use for brickfilming I've found. I just use the 18-55mm lens that came with my camera.

Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

Hey there PritchardStudios, thanks alot for your helpful insight on the software and information you have provided,

So there is no way no lower image size without compressing or effecting the quality of the image?

If there isn't I guess biting the bullet will be worth in the long run,

So in other words, I don't need to buy a remote control for the camera?

Thanks so much for your reply, I have seen a few threads on DSLR's but I worried as I did not think each DSLR

would be compatible with every software, and how do I plug it in, to use it via computer to take photos? Is it just be USB? I though cameras only plug into USB ports if there transferring images?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm very new to the DSLR side of things!

Hey there Repelling Spider! Thanks for your great and very helpful reply as well,

I agree with you, and do apologize about not mentioning my camera beforehand, the DSLR, is a Canon EOS 1100D, Please tell me what you(s) think of it, whether it will be good, is it good or not, as I am still new to the DSLR side, I went from a Logitech C920 to this so it was a big step,
I really didn't know they could be operated remotely as soon as plugged in Repelling spider, as I was told they work as a camera, when plugged in, they can't be turned on as it is only for transferring data, I believe you when you say it, I don't why they said that tho, maybe a mistake, or mismatch on a different sort of camera.

Is it not wise to use a DSLR for stop motion? I do like taking photos in general, but the sole purpose of this DSLR was to be for brickfilming, is it harder with a DSLR or something?

The interchangeable Lens have been something I have wanted for a long time, I also really like the shutter feature, moving it around to zoom in, and zoom out, I really do enjoy that,

The funny thing is I still have not even opened up my DSLR, I am that terrifed of it, that I came here for help first, and I got this early yesterday morning haha.

WOW, that's great, Repelling spider, as I got the 18-55mm lens as well! And your films are really well done with it, have they all been used with it? Also is there a zoom feature on it? And what is the optical zoom? 5x? 8x?

And are Macro Lens expensive to buy?

Thank you all for your great replies, I really do appreciate it, as they have been very helpful for me.

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Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

Could I get a reply regarding my question's from either one of you's or both?

I'd really appreciate it.

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Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

DSLRs are a large investment for brickfilming. You are probably going to want to get an AC Adapter for your camera so it constantly has power when filming. There is nothing worse than the batteries dying on you when in the middle of a scene. The camera you bought is decent low level DLSR. It will take decent photos and will do just fine for brickfilming. Lenses are tricky and expensive. For now I would stick to the kit lens and get comfortable with the camera. This will give you a better idea of what you want in a lens. Just play around with your camera and you will pick up on how to use it in no time.

Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

The EOS 1100D should work great for brickfilming and it would be wise to use it. The lens that came with your camera should work fine. In order to remotely control your camera from your computer, you'll have to install EOS Utility which is a software that should come on a disk that came with your camera. If you somehow don't have the CD to install the software with, simply go to canon's website at this link and you can select your operating system and download it for free. Once you have installed the software, hook your camera up to your computer via USB. Then turn your camera on and open up EOS Utility. There should be an option for you to click Remote Capture.

Don't be terrified of opening it though! Get it out and start learning how to use it! Read the manual and find out the specifics of how to operate it. For brickfilming, you are going to have to use it in Manual Mode and set a custom white balance. So perhaps reading up on those two things would serve you well. Then go and try out those two things and start making some tests.

Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

Hey AquaMorph, thanks for your response, I probably will and should get an AC adapter as you are correct, it would be frustrating for it to die during a scene, that'd be a real pain!

At the time I though I had got the twin pack, I was upset to know it was only single one,

I just wanted to ask you, I'm very confused being a first time user for DSLR's in general, I don't know if its me or not,
All the photos I was taking were coming out blurry, even at AF mode, they still were blurred or not as good as they should be, I played around and got better quality however what really, really bothers me, and I don't know if this is normal or not, is when you go to take a photo, and this is through computer I was using EOS utility (Thanks Repelling spider) Anyhow as I take the photo there is a square in the center I noticed you can move it around now the thing that bothers me is it focuses, only were the square thing is, the other parts all get blurry, so How can I take a good shot, when I can only focus on were the square goes?
Thanks again for your response if you can help me out it'd be very appreciative and beneficial.

Hey there Repelling Spider,
Thanks for your response, it's good to know my camera will do well for brickfilming, I do want to use it, and Yes I finally did open it! I did install the EOS utility thanks for the link, and the suggestion, however as I stated to AquaMorph I am having trouble focusing out of the square box, as it is very frustrating, and annoying, and when I take images of a bunch of lego characters, for some reason the ones infront are out of focus, and are blurred while others are ok, and this is on MF as well, to the point you can't focus it no more, and I have seen your videos and they are crystal clear quality, so I might be doing something wrong being the fact, are Lens are the same.

I hope you(s) can help out, I would really appreciate it alot, as I don't want my money to go to waste.

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Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

I don't think this was stated before, set the camera to manual, everything should be manual, even the white balance, which you'll have to use the custom setting (which I find a pain, but you don't really have a choice, only much nicer cameras have manual white balance adjustment). Try setting the aperture (the setting that says f/ ) to a higher number and counter the loss of light by using a longer shutter speed. Also the camera can only focus on a subject so close the lens; on the lens you have it's probably around 0.9 feet or so, make sure all of your subjects are far enough away from the camera. mini/smile

Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

The problem you are experiencing seems to me to due to the shallow depth of field. This is something very different in comparison to a webcam. In order to get a wider range of focus you'll need to set your aperture f/stop number to something fairly high, like f/9 or f/14.  Even higher. You don't necessarily want to have a super wide focus range though... I rarely ever exceed an f number of 9 I'd say. Read up on how manual mode works and how exposure works on DSLRs. There are plenty of resources online to learn.

Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

Hey backyardlegos thanks for your great and helpful information, I really do appreciate it, Yes I have been using the manual part on DSLR, however thank you for the reminder, I have used autofocus before back a long time ago when I was first learning, and I always seemed to notice a change in the photos, I notice you have to do custom setting which is a pain, I'm slowly getting there, with the webcam it's much easier, as you can adjust it simply through the computer all the options are there, white balance, etc.
What do you mean by that count of the loss of light? Cause as I stated to repelling spider below my camera's LCD has gotten very dark indoors, however when outside the focus is great now.
Thanks for the aperture tip I had no idea about it.

Hey there Repelling Spider,
I do agree with you shallow depth of field, may definitely be the issue, yes I have realized the hard way what a big difference from a webcam a DSLR is, it's major, thank you so much for your Great response it was very helpful, you and Backyardstudios telling me the suggestion for the Aperture, as that was really the issue, and suggesting f/9 worked flawlessly, thanks man, I really do appreciate it.
The thing is when looking online, they never really seem to mention the EOS 1100d, they seem to talk more about the T3i and T2i which seem to be more common in general, and the thing is on same dslr's the settings are really different,

Also Just one more question, now that the focus is fine, why has my camera gotten very dark as in the LCD part of the camera, indoors when there is still light? That's the only last thing that seems to be bothering me and the camera, I'd really appreciate that last response, very much.

Thanks once again BackYardLegos and Repelling Spider for your great responses!

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Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

What I meant is that when the aperture is increased to a higher number the image will get darker, so you have to use a slower shutter speed in order to make up for the lost light. A slower shutter speed will give you a brighter image. There's a setting in the menu to adjust the brightness of the LCD screen, that should help you. mini/smile

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Hey BackyardLegos,

So the image gets darker the higher the aperture? Very interesting, So what shutter speed would you recommend? I currently have it on 1/100 for shutter speed should it be decreased what would you recommend?

Oh, and I'll check to see if I can find the brightness setting I didn't know there was one for the actual LCD, thanks mate mini/smile

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Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

Here is information about optimal camera settings. Shutter speed, aperture, ISO, ... mini/wink

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Hey there, VerkkuUkkeliProductions

Thanks very much for your helpful link, it was great, Really appreciate it,

cheers bud.

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Yah, that link summarizes it all. mini/smile

Re: Upgraded from webcam to D-SLR What NOW? Animation wise? software wise?

I don't know what, I'm doing wrong, I do appreciate all the help but for some reason something is still wrong,
it still isn't helping me, I did the exact setting as stated on the link,
however even when I try to focus on the lego, it never goes all the way focused, it's still a little blurry, and when I said it worked it worked for on people however even on people on the lcd it is blurry and the actual picture is better,
I'm just confused is it cause I'm not a DSLR person, or could something be wrong? Or is it something else?

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