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Pay-youtube?  No one will ever have to pay to visit my channel.  Also, I will never partner with the YT jerks and monetize my videos.  The only ads you'll ever see are the ones on my page are related to the content.

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HoldingOurOwn wrote:

I will never partner with the YT jerks and monetize my videos.

^ This.

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I totally concur. What's more, I am sick and tired of Youtube as a whole. It seems like the only things that get recognition are 1) VLOGS: a person widely considered to be pretty or attractive talks about some random crap that nobody really cares about; they just watch the video because their accent is "cute" or whatever. and 2) Very high-budget videos, effects-intensive eye candy with pretty much no plot. Examples of this are like the Epic Rap Battles, and those smosh things.
It seems as if a video created as art for the sake of art will never get anywhere on Youtube. I'm pretty much done with youtube personally. I'll still post things there but I'm going to start using Vimeo or doing film festivals or something. I've just totally lost interest in 99% of youtube videos.

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I too have come to dislike YouTube to a certain extent. The culmination of the lacklustre new white channel design, the constant and ever growing Google- merging, the completely scheiße vlogs, the wham-bam videos and horrendous music videos that dominate the viewership spectrum have all made me cringe.

That said, YouTube offers an unparalleled audience, and still has a lot of really good stuff on it. I look at Vimeo, and it's frankly like breathing in some fresh air. The video player is truly beautiful, the content is great, there are hardly any white backgrounds anywhere. But there is far less of an audience and that's what decides it for me in the end.

I've decided that I'll set up a YouTube channel for my animations, and a snazzy Vimeo channel for any behind-the-scenes stuff and tutorials.

And on the original topic, I personally think it's a tad stupid to not monetize your videos, if you've got something successful, you should capitalise on it.

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I monetise because I don't have a job, but I will never partner up with some network - because I have a habit of just making whatever I want to make. I'll only do it if the network just lets me carry on doing what I want like nothings changed...but that will never happen because they'll start requesting I create stuff on a regular basis and that it must be more 'mainstream'. I like satirising current trends, but quite often I just want to create something original.

I don't use Vimeo any-more. Its a great-looking website with great videos, but no-one goes on it. Its like a modern-art exhibition on the outskirts of London - it looks great, but its completely empty and you begin to feel awkward standing there alone with no-one but the creator.

YouTube on the other hand is like a music concert: the tickets are expensive, the food and merchandise is a rip-off, the venue isn't suitable, there's only a small chance the musicians won't show up drunk, and the crowd is full of knobheads.

But of course, if your a musician, you need to play in the larger venues to actually get any sort of fan-base/viewer-ship.

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Max, She/Her

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Haha, that's one of the best analogies I've heard yet. mini/bigsmile

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The thing that gets me about Vimeo, aside from the "nobody is watching" factor, is the very slow upload and processing speeds, and that the download speeds aren't acceptably fast enough for watching HD video on most connections. I have to admit, though, the HD video on Vimeo looks quite a bit better than HD video on YouTube. YouTube compression tends to take a lot of texture and fine detail away.

YouTube's 4k option allowed for a loophole in that you could basically blow your movie up to 4k, upload it, and it'd look great at full quality, but then they saw people were doing that and disabled 4k.

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I'm sad they removed the 4k option, it would have been nice to upload some of my more recent films in native 4k on YT, but hey, at least their HD option requires a notably lower connection speed than many other sites (even if it isn't quite as good as Vimeo.

Also, the thing that really bugs be about YouTube at the moment, is how they really seem to penalise you if you're not uploading on a regular basis.  I used to get upwards of 2,000+ views per day and a regular income from Google, but since I've been less active (real world stuff and a shift in interest), my views have dropped to less than 600 per day and earnings have plummeted (although the earnings is partly because google changed the way Adsense works or something, ultimately resulting in lower earnings for most people).  I'm gonna try and stick it out with YouTube and see if I can't at least give my earnings a bit of a boost with more regular brickfilms, but I guess it'll never be what it was 2-3 years ago when the partner program was almost prestigious and the perks were far more valuable than they are today.

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It's not really YouTube's fault, if you upload videos infrequently there's no new stream of traffic to your channel.

I haven't been uploading regularly in a long time, now, and my revenue (which at its height was like $1.50-$2.00 a day) is now down to basically a negligible amount in that it takes nearly a year to add up to enough for them to send me a check.

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Yeah, my revenue reached like £5 ($8-9) a day during summer '11, but now I'm barely making 5% of that which is pretty depressing.
I guess it's more the fact that so many videos are uploaded every minute, and it's increasing; meaning that older videos from less active users get less attention.  I'm sad to see to some of my videos that were once fairly high up the list of relevant searches being pushed back several pages.

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Why do you guys complain just because of the amount of money your making. Why can't you just enjoy it as a place to post videos and have money be just a nice bonus.

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The money from youtube usually funds the brickfilms, if there isn't any money then; no brickfilms. (sometimes)

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If brickfilming is your hobby not your job and you have the equipment needed to make them (because you've made them you do) the money isn't needed to make brickfilms only to upgraded your equipment for better quality.

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Well END films, in the end, it's kind of nice to gain some monetary returns from your brickfilms, as it kind of helps you make more of them and justifies the time you spent on them.

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Nothing is wrong with making a profit on the brickfilms, especially when it is re-invested into bricks that will improve future films.  It's just the partnering with Google that I hate.  I even hate posting to YT, and would gladly go somewhere else, but that's where you have to post to be seen.

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I didn't say making money from YouTube is bad. I said it was a nice bonus but you shouldn't complain if you don't make a lot from your videos.

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Fair enough. I should be grateful that I'm able to earn even a penny out of something that I would keep doing anyway because I love it (and having complete control over my work makes me feel like an evil dictator with complete dominion over a little plastic world)

This said, I don't think anyone here was complaining - I think they were just saying that if you monetise your videos you don't immediately get transported into a life of sex, drugs, and Lego.

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I reached 1k views on my passion of christ video!
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Ew, gross. I hate the One channel. It's so... uncolorful. I liked it when the channels looked like this :
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/youtube/images/a/a3/Oldest_channel.jpg
yes I am old enough to remember that.