Topic: 1980s music discussion

Well, Just to start in a general sense, I love the music from my childhood, and I know that it's being rediscovered by the contemporary youth.  It was a time when anything could be a hit.  There was Prince and Michael Jackson and all that, and I enjoyed that.  But my tastes were with the more experimental music and the novelty at the time of synthesizers.  Lately I've been exploring what I call "the third rail"- music that is often very good, but neither the top 40 nor the experimental... stuff truly underground or independent that is so obscure that even people of the 1980s will say, "What?!" when you mention the band's name.

I'm also kind of like the rain man of 80s music.  When I hear a song from the 80s until about 1991, I can name the artist and year.  It annoys my family when a commercial comes on with some second-rail new wave song and I do that.

What kind of 80s music do you like?  What specific songs do you like?

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YES! THIS IS THE GREATEST TOPIC EVER!

I'll start with one of the most underrated songs of the 80's. I'm glad that after Grace Jones did her memorable Diamond Jubilee performance of this song its started to get more attention - and I think this song got to no.2 in some countries (so its not obscure in any way) but it should be up there with Billie Jean, Take On Me, Come on Eileen, and Love Will Tear Us Apart as one of the best songs of the decade. Its a funk/R&B/soul pop song about slavery/everyday work and you can dance to it. What more do you want?

There is of course such songs as Blue Monday, Ghost Town, Baggy Trousers, West End Girls, Its A Sin, Relax, Where Is My Mind, Money For Nothing, I Die: You Die, Der Kommissar, Safety Dance and Smalltown Boy to name but a select few. Whilst Kraftwerk's The Model was made in 1978, it inexplicably got to number 1 in the UK around 1981 - technically making the German quartet a one hit wonder. A huge shame, since both Kraftwerk and Yellow Electric Orchestra basically invented synthesised music. Without those two, the 80's would have been a very different decade music-wise.

You could also say that music made in 1979 counts as 80's music - in which case I could go on all day. 1979 was a great year for pop music, with such greats as Cars, Are 'Friends' Electric, Heart of Glass, Ashes to Ashes, Another Brick In The Wall (you could cheat and name every song from 'The Wall'), Rock With You, and Behind The Mask (the Yellow Electric Orchestra version, although both the Eric Clapton and Michael Jackson covers are worth listening to).

In contrast to the synth, there was also Talking Heads. I wasn't alive in the 80's, but I imagine they were brilliant if you'd gotten bored of all the synth, ska, hair, and genre-mixing.

I should also mention this. Its weird. The video will scare you in a way you cannot describe. But Trio, whilst not necessarily producing great music, did something no-one else did - they stripped down music to just three guys. Of course, today you have just one person playing guitars with pedals and loops and fancy gadgetry that makes me jealous I can't play an instrument - but I wish there was a modern equivalent to these guys. In an age where pop music is overproduced with that horrid Dubstep-inspired fuzz sound (I don't dislike Dubstep/Grime, I just hate the effect its had on music as a whole), its so refreshing to see just two/three instruments playing a song. That guitar riff would fade into the background of any normal song, but because its the only instrument aside from the drums and the deliberately cheap Casio keyboard loop, we love such simple sounds. Anyone interested?

Similarly, I think this takes the biscuit as the strangest thing from the 80's. Although, I always feel bad for laughing at it. Klaus Nomi was exceptionally talented, but was also one of the first notable gay men to die of AIDs (back before anyone understood the disease). He wasn't taken in his prime, he was taken just before he was about to break out. And its heartbreaking because this man could've been up there with artistic geniuses such as David Bowie had his career been longer and richer.

I've always wanted to get into the more obscure 80's stuff - since I feel embarrassed when I say that I'm fascinated by 80's culture and can only name music that was (and still is) humongously popular. Hopefully more will contribute to this thread and we can all enrich ourselves.

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Hey!  There IS an explanation as to why the model because a hit in 1981 though it was released in 1978.  Some ingenious DJ in 1981 decided in a euro club that it was worth putitng on the dance floor.  It took off from there.  As for Der Kommissar, are you referrring to the 1982 original by the late Falco, or the After the Fire 1983 remake?  I have just about every one of the songs you mentioned in my MP3 (except for Pink Floyd.  I always hated them though web sites always say "If you like Kraftwerk, you;ll also love this!").  I list the Trio song in a video "nonsense songs of the 80s", seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LMbY72TBAU


After viewing that, you may retract your claim to "lightning strikes" as the dedcade's strangest song!!!!

BTW, Brent Schneider in my brickfilm series "Holding Our Own" is a Kraftwerk fan.  It will be important to the plot of episode 4.

Also, if you're interested in some of the Third Rail 80s music, a good starting point is the band "Planning By Numbers"

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Oh, man, some of those bring back memories!  Max, I don't remember the Grace Jones song, but most of the other songs played in my head as I read the titles you listed.  I wish I had kept all the tapes I'd once owned. I had quite an eclectic collection of 80's-90's music.   

Have either of you ever seen the 80's film/musical Absolute Beginners?  I haven't seen it in ages, so I can't remember much about it, but I do remember there were lots of good songs in it (my favorite was Have You Ever Had it Blue by "The Style Council").

Don't forget Wot by "Captain Sensible".  I quote that all the time to my kids.  For some reason Major Tom (How many versions of that song are there anyway?!) has been stuck in my head lately.  My son once asked, "Mom, how come 80's music is so weird?"     

HoldingOurOwn, did you go to any concerts in the 80's?  My first concert was "The Clash," even though I was not a big fan of theirs.  My friends wanted to go, but many of them missed most of the concert because they ended up in the infirmary from being trampled.  "Los Lobos" opened for "The Clash" (BAD idea) and put the crowd in a hostile mood, which didn't help.   Ah, memories...

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Ah! So that's how The Model became popular. Its a shame Kraftwerk's other stuff didn't catch on, but I suppose The Model is one of Kraftwerk's only songs that seems 'radio friendly' (they definitely don't deserve to be a 'One Hit Wonder'). Can't imagine anyone in my club grooving to 'Radioactive', 'Pocket Calculator', or anything else from 'The Man Machine' (though they might enjoy tracks from 'The Mix').

HoldingOurOwn wrote:

As for Der Kommissar, are you referring to the 1982 original by the late Falco, or the After the Fire 1983 remake?

I personally prefer the Falco version, but the remake is decent enough. There is also 'Deep in the Dark' - but the lyrics are completely changed and its played in a different key.

As a person who keeps looking for hilariously weird music (or just generally weird), the 'Nonsense Songs of the 1980s' video is absolutely brilliant. I Eat Cannibals, For Science and Quiet Please were particular highlights for me, and immediately made me check out the full versions. Dare to be Stupid has always been one of my favourite Weird Al songs (my favourite lyric is "put your head in the microwave and get yourself a tan").

Checking out Planning By Numbers now. Hearing great things so far...

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Speaking of weird/funny 80's songs, how about some of the "Barnes and Barnes" hits including Fish Heads and Boogie Woogie AmputeeStar Trekkin' by "The Firm" is another.  "They Might Be Giants" always has creative songs.  From the 80's Youth Culture Killed My Dog is one of my favorites.

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Brick7, I never went to concerts younger.  But I did see Weird Al 4 times starting in 1997, and The Residents once in Phialdelphia.  Now my brother is a punk rocker.  He goes to all their shows, and there are some real characters there.  But he attended the Residents show w/ my wife and I, and he said, "at that show, _I_ was scared!"  They really have gotten more disturbing lately.  The guitarist in my band was going to go see They Might Be Giants back in the 1990s when they expanded their lineup (about 1994), but it fell through.  I also had a ticket to see Pop Will Eat Itself, but again, I didn't have a way to get there.  So I keep the ticket as a memento.

Another band that plays occasionaly at Atlantic City is Devo, and it's my dream to see one of their concerts.  I had to pass up the last 2 times.  It's hard when your child has autism to get out.

THe song "Fish Heads" is actually from the 1970s, thought it was big in the 80s.  Dr Demento is in the video as the homeless  guy.  I think it's 1977, but my 80s knowledge is much more accurate.  That is my own character trait that I put into Angela in "Holding Our Own".  And her philosophy on pop music is an exaggeration of my own.  I love the music, but could care less about the artists themselves.  (Except Weird Al).  I am traditional and conservative in everything except the music.

Like Grace Jones.  The music is great, but she's really perverted for me to like her.

Max, That song "Quiet Please" in my video is by Negativland.  The best thing about them is that all their music is copyright free.  I also think "Computer Love" by Kraftwerk could have been a hit.

And another band that is in the third rail is the electronica band "Radio Free Europe".  Check out their song "It Likes You", which can be another contender vying for "Weirdest song of the 1980s."  Not for the uninitiated.

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Been enjoying this song a little too much. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwuy4hHO3YQ

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The drums from the 1980s make me want to throw up then curl up and die. And the hairstyles.

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Isn't it nice to know, Onion, that someday kids will be complaining about the "weirdness" of your generation? mini/smile History always repeats itself.  I have to admit, though, that when I watch the old 80's videos, all the make up and the "wall o' hair" hairdos are rather frightening.

HoldingOurOwn, I read that Fishheads came out in '79, but didn't become popular until the 80's, but that date could be wrong. I bet a "Weird Al" concert is a blast!  In the 90's I saw "They Might Be Giants", and they were amazing.  Now days, I am more into classical music, jazz, or big band.  Every once in a while I'll feel in the mood for something more lively or different, but one time when I put on one of my old "Oingo Boingo" CDs, my kids thought I'd lost my senses.  You should have heard the commotion they raised when I played Kate Bush.  It was quite hilarious.

1011Ev, that song (speaking of radios) reminded me of another 80's song, Mexican Radio by "Wall of Voodoo."

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I love all of you. Joy Division, New Order, Pet Shop Boys, Hall and Oates, Alphaville have been on top of my recent plays lately.

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Brick7 wrote:

Isn't it nice to know, Onion, that someday kids will be complaining about the "weirdness" of your generation? mini/smile History always repeats itself.  I have to admit, though, that when I watch the old 80's videos, all the make up and the "wall o' hair" hairdos are rather frightening.

HoldingOurOwn, I read that Fishheads came out in '79, but didn't become popular until the 80's, but that date could be wrong. I bet a "Weird Al" concert is a blast!  In the 90's I saw "They Might Be Giants", and they were amazing.  Now days, I am more into classical music, jazz, or big band.  Every once in a while I'll feel in the mood for something more lively or different, but one time when I put on one of my old "Oingo Boingo" CDs, my kids thought I'd lost my senses.  You should have heard the commotion they raised when I played Kate Bush.  It was quite hilarious.

1011Ev, that song (speaking of radios) reminded me of another 80's song, Mexican Radio by "Wall of Voodoo."

"Weird Al" concerts ARE a blast!  Very theatrical and with lots of costume changes & audio/visual!  A great song fom Stan Ridgeway from Wall of Voodoo is "I Want TO Be a Boss".  I have an interview CD called "Fly on the wall" from around that period.  Thanks for the 1979 date for Fish Heads.  You know, one version of that record was shaped like a fish head!

Now I don't know too much about Jazz, but I really love "Massive Transit" by Cindy Bradley.  You may have notived that it's in the Holding Our Own ep 2 script.  I'm trying to learn more about classic jazz, having become interested in it while researching my film "The Complete History of Recorded Music, Part 1":

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I love 80s hair & Roland 808 drums.  Big hair reminds me of my sad 80s prom story, which I'll tell sometime.

And Lamplight: I absolutely LOVE New Order's "Blue Monday".  And I've been really into Alphaville pretty recently, esp. "Big In Japan".

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Oh, another thing about Jazz.  I just finished a song that was nearly-completed for a while.  It's my 1st smooth jazz song.  Now I'll provide a link when it's up, but I want to mention that although I NEVER do anything obscene, once in a while some content of my music can be a bit risque, usually as satire or social commentary.  Anyway, the title of the song is not obscene, but does include the clinical name for part of the reproductive anatomy.  So when I post it, you can decide the family-friendliness of it before letting yr kids visit the link.  All that aside, I'm pretty proud of the way it sounds, and I'll post on this thread when it's on YouTube.

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Onion wrote:

The drums from the 1980s make me want to throw up then curl up and die. And the hairstyles.

That's fair enough, but yeah - as Brick7 pointed out - trends and styles change rapidly. I'm sure in 30 years time people will laugh at everyone's quiff's and cringe at the dubstep-inspired fuzz of today's music.

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I'm sure in 30 years time people will laugh at everyone's quiff's and cringe at the dubstep-inspired fuzz of today's music.

Not to mention AUTOTUNE!!!!!!!!
BLAGH!!!!!!
In fact, I composed & recorded a song about how much I hate Auto-Tune (I have a half-completed music video).
Listen to it here:

http://www.last.fm/music/Tinnitis/The+Y … /Auto-Tune

And click the "free dl" link to keep it & put it on your mp3 player!

Oh, and there are samples from Stern's Arcade game "Berzerk" (1980) during the bridge.

You can click "Learn more about "The Year We Make Contact" to hear 30 second clips of the entire album AUTO TUNE came from, featuring these songs I recorded:

Underground Bunker
Nina's Dead! (Kim Bauer's mix)
FON Phreakin'
Hannah Montana's Driving Me Bananas
Parmesan
Auto-Tune
Tanstaafl
This Is a Test
Nina's Dead! (Chloe's CTU mix)
Last Dance
It Came From The First Grade 

LMK what you think.

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HoldingOurOwn wrote:

Oh, another thing about Jazz.  I just finished a song that was nearly-completed for a while.  It's my 1st smooth jazz song.  Now I'll provide a link when it's up, but I want to mention that although I NEVER do anything obscene, once in a while some content of my music can be a bit risque, usually as satire or social commentary.  Anyway, the title of the song is not obscene, but does include the clinical name for part of the reproductive anatomy.  So when I post it, you can decide the family-friendliness of it before letting yr kids visit the link.  All that aside, I'm pretty proud of the way it sounds, and I'll post on this thread when it's on YouTube.


Here's the song.  I actually have the video posted twice: 1x with a G-Rated title, and 1x with the PG-rated title.  Here's a link to the G_Rated title:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4higMlVG47k
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Most of the songs from the 80's that I remember I only remember because they get played on "oldies" radio stations or I've got them on my iPod. Most of the obscure songs that I liked at the time I can't remember. I know because when downloading mp3's became a thing *ahem* I tried to recall the titles to go looking for them and either couldn't remember them or didn't find any matches so promptly forgot them.

I was about to do a "kids these days don't appreciate music" speech, but I'd just be repeating my dad from when he said it to me. I really do like it when a song I liked and haven't heard in ages comes on the radio. With the capacity to pirate music these days and cheap, massive storage space, you just don't get that little jump inside when a forgotten favourite comes on.

I still have my cd collection, bought at the start of the 90's - I was an amateur dj at the time and spent I have no idea how much on cd's. Too much, considering what they are worth now...

Ha, I'll go invite some local kids over so I can tell them to get off my lawn!

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Hey, if you don't know 80s song titles, but remember some lyrics, I may be able to discern the songs 4ya!  Just post here.

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The thing about the 80s music is that there is so much variety, and so much to be discovered even by hardcore 80s fans, especially in the third rail.  I just discovered this gem in the synth pop category.  It's called "Dumping Cart Motion" by Glass Museum, from their self-titled 1984 album.  It is so sad that I've gone all these years without ever hearing this song.  And like a lot of the 80s synth acts, they talked a lot about technology and computers as a metaphor for humans and social interaction.  Much like "A Circuit Like Me" by The Metronomes, a third-rail 80s band that uses a lot of moog and has that German technoppop late 70s early 80s sound.  The warmth of those type of synths gave the coldness of computers as a topic a strange emotional quality of its own.

Anyway, for those who were on this forum who were interested in exploring the third rail, I recommend these two songs for a way different experience.

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Here's another 1980s song thatI just discovered for the first time.  It's called "Call time" by Vision.  It's a high-energy synth with a bit of Disco elements added to it.  Let me see if it's anywhere on YouTube.

...

Yes.  Here's a link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNnEiZ98eZU

I think it's from 1983.

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