Topic: Is 256GB of SSD storage *enough*?

My heart is set on the new Retina MacBook Pro, but I was thinking that the the super-expensive base model's 256GB of Solid State Drive storage (which is much superior to a Hard Disk Drive) is not enough for my planned videos. Should I invest in a 750GB or 1TB external hard drive too? Besides that, the MBP comes with 8GB of RAM, a 2.3GHz quad-core Intel i7 processor, Intel HD Graphics 4000, as well as NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M graphics with 1GB of GDDR5 memory. Now if you managed to understand most of the above mini/no I think the Retina MacBook Pro is a good choice for brickfilming, do you? And please, no dreary, done-to-death Mac vs Windows stuff, I'm a Mac person, I have Macs, and I have no intention of switching to Windows. That being said, I respect Windows users and the great content many Brickfilmers create on them.

Re: Is 256GB of SSD storage *enough*?

Let's say you film HD at 16:9, 1280 x 720, 921,600pixels, say the images are uncompressed 8 bits/pixel, that'll be 921.6 KB per image you take.  That's about 291,271 frames you can store on a 256 GB HD.  Taking into account OS, audio, video editors, sound, stock footage and the finished uncompressed video, let's divide it by 2 = 145,635 frames, about 101 minutes of brickfilms @ 24 fps.  Assuming you'll delete your raw images but keep your final product and your finished product average less than 2.5 min, you can get about 80 brickfilms out before you need to clean your harddrive.

Don't think you'll need a 1 TB external harddrive.  But that's based on my assumptions here.

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mini/eek I greatly appreciate the effort in your post, and the storage concept is a lot clearer in my head now! I won't be uploading my future videos in HD or Full HD, a limitation of iStopmotion Express, but, your post has helped a lot.

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I would also suggest that you get a separate drive for storage of your videos, because using an SSD simply for video storage is not giving you the best "bang for your buck." As you have probably found out, SSDs are rather expensive (although some can be $1/gigabyte), and, unless you are a serious brickfilmer, you may want to buy an SSD for other purposes. Believe me, the space will run out fast --- depending on what media you work with. I would use the SSD to launch your OS and store programs that you want to launch faster. If I may make a suggestion, you might also want to buy an SSD with smaller space (128-gig per say), and use the remaining money to buy a cheap 1TB drive for your video storage. Your choice. Also, I'm no Mac expert, but if your Mac has integrated USB 3.0 outlets, then you can get a USB 3.0-compatible hard drive, with speeds almost as fast as SSDs.

Lechnology's advice is most helpful; do what you feel better suits your needs.

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Thanks Gopher, I will also take that into consideration. The new Retina MacBook Pro does come with USB 3.0. I think that I initially will use the built in SSD in the computer, and eventually buy an external harddrive when I am more established. The thing about USB 3.0 external harddrives compatible or made for Mac is that they are considerably more expensive than their Windows counterparts. Anyway, I shall invest the $100 for the external harddrive in purchasing a Canon Vixia HV40 off Amazon or EBay. Thank you both for your helpful answers.

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Alright, glad to help; as I said before I'm no expert on Macs so I'm glad you've enlightened me. mini/smile

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I think you should get the external hard drive. On my average brickfilm take up 25 GB of space. I keep all the raw footage because I think it is good to have the originals. With only 256 GB of space you are going to fill it up. I am assuming you are going to use this computer for other things besides brickfilming. From personal experience I will tell you that Macs slow down the closer to full the main hard drive is. So I would get the external hard drive to keep you computer running fast.

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Like Gopher said, if you do get an SSD drive, I would recommend using that for your Operating System, etc. and maybe a backup of your project files.

I would personally like to create a network some day, but don't want to invest the money in that right now. I have a tower and currently have 4x internal harddrives. These are all backed up to external (internal) harddrives that I mount with a 2x HardDrive dock and store in anti-static cases.

When I archive files from my internal harddrives, these go to 2x harddrives, etc.

Check out these Amazon prices:

Seagate 1 TB

Seagate 2 TB

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Sorry for the bump - but I've got some updates!
I took all of the for/against buying an external hardrive advice into consideration, and was swayed to the positive 'buy' it side. Just by chance, my mum was wanting to get one for other purposes, too! Of course, I jumped at this revelation, and I (and my mum) ended up getting a Western Digital one:

http://dicksmith.com.au/product/XM2250/ … ve-usb-3-0
We had to reformat it to be fully Mac-compatible though.

Also, I did end up with the MacBook Pro with Retina Display, and it's a truly fantastic machine. I upgraded the RAM to 16GB, as I thought it a worthwhile investment, and would help me accomplish my tasks (video/photo editing, animating, graphic designs etc.).

Thanks to all, Lechnology, Gopher, AquaMorph and Cinexcellence!

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Carousel wrote:

My heart is set on the new Retina MacBook Pro, but I was thinking that the the super-expensive base model's 256GB of Solid State Drive storage (which is much superior to a Hard Disk Drive) is not enough for my planned videos. Should I invest in a 750GB or 1TB external hard drive too? Besides that, the MBP comes with 8GB of RAM, a 2.3GHz quad-core Intel i7 processor, Intel HD Graphics 4000, as well as NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M graphics with 1GB of GDDR5 memory. Now if you managed to understand most of the above mini/no I think the Retina MacBook Pro is a good choice for brickfilming, do you? And please, no dreary, done-to-death Mac vs Windows stuff, I'm a Mac person, I have Macs, and I have no intention of switching to Windows. That being said, I respect Windows users and the great content many Brickfilmers create on them.

EDIT: Nevermind, didn't notice the OP was from July.

My old YouTube is since long ago defunct - now even removed.
Here is my new one.

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Oh mini/smile

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So Carousel, how's the 16GB's of RAM? I'm on a MacBook Pro (Not Retina mini/sad ) and have 4 gigs, which suits me, but may upgrade to 8 or 16 to do more at once, as I am unable to have Chrome, Blender, After Effects, DragonFrame, and iMovie open all at once (once again, mini/sad ) So, how is the added RAM?

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To put it simply, it's fantastic! mini/bigsmile
The 16GB of RAM is amazingly powerful; I can run (not that I'd want to) every single application in my dock, such as Safari, Tweetbot, Skype, iMessage, Calendar, iStopmotion, Pixelmator, iTunes, Sketch 2, Final Cut Pro, Pages (you get the point), simultaneously without a single hitch. A few weeks ago I was exporting about 2 hours of video, it took only about 10 minutes, during which I switched repeatedly from Tweetbot, Pixelmator and Safari.

So to sum it up, 4GB of is an ever-fading and underwhelming standard, and I highly advise you to go for at least 8GB of RAM (which is basically the new standard), or if financially viable, get the 16GB upgrade. I primarily got 16GB because the Retina MacBook Pro's RAM is unable to be upgraded the user, due to the fact that it is soldered in, so it's a now or never situation. Although I also got it to tend to my image/video editing and stopmotion needs.

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Sounds like a powerful laptop. SSDs are great. I have a 2 tb hard drive and a 128 gb SSD. Generally with smaller SSDs you pretty much just want to reserve them for running apps/games, the speed advantage isn't too significant for other purposes anyway. You definitely want as much space as you can get for doing video work. I am constantly having to delete old files on my 2 TB hard drive to make room.

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I really like the elegant design of the newer MacBook Pro's, especially the retina ones. I also like the sheer power behind them, though saddened that Apple made parts less user replaceable, though it didn't sound like too much of a hassle mini/smile .  I can find 16 GB's of RAM for my MacBook that has been confirmed to work from several sources for around $100. It sounds like a good investment to make, so I will probably take that route. Thanks for that information, because I thought 16 may be overkill, but I guess not! mini/lol

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I purchased 16 GB G-Skill Ripjaws RAM for $35 over 6 months ago...I have absolutely no experience with Macs, so I do not know if they require a different/specified type of RAM, but I would recommend looking elsewhere for 16GB DDR3 1600 RAM if you are paying $100! Just trying to help out mini/wink

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Re: Is 256GB of SSD storage *enough*?

I purchased 16 GB G-Skill Ripjaws RAM for $35 over 6 months ago...I have absolutely no experience with Macs, so I do not know if they require a different/specified type of RAM, but I would recommend looking elsewhere for 16GB DDR3 1600 RAM if you are paying $100! Just trying to help out

Thanks for that. RAM for Macs seems to be a bit more, as the cheapest that I found is around $75 for 16 GB's, though from a weird source. Plus, their S + H costs were about thirty dollars, while the $100 RAM had free shipping.  Thanks for the help.

One final question, how beneficial is the solid state? BTW I have a laptop that moves around a lot

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@Smeagol, it is a very powerful, and the SSD does make quite a difference. I am glad that I bought the 1TB external hardrive, as I'm sure ill need it in the future.

@Gopher, As most things are with Apple, RAM is far more expensive on a Mac. I'd go for the $100 16GB RAM, purely because its nearly $100 cheaper than what I had to fork out to upgrade mine (although I did get an eduction discount).

@Caveman Incorporated, I too really like the almost flawless design of the MBP. To date, I haven't found a single laptop that's design, screen or trackpad is on par with the Retina MacBook Pro. On the note of the screen, many people judge 'Retina' as a mere marketing gimmick, but I feel that such views are huge misconceptions. It's really great, and there's no going back once you've used it for a while.

So definitely get the $100 16GB of RAM, it will be a worthwhile decision, of which there will be many rewards! Solid State Drives are far longer lasting when compared to HDDs, due to the fact that they have no moving parts. So, it that respect, they're superior, as well as with speed - but they're still very expensive.

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Thanks for all of the information, I'll probably get that RAM once I get $100 mini/bigsmile

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