Topic: Editing Help

Guys,

Lately, I've been having this want to learn more about editing such as adding some good effects like in Pancake Island or in other films. Anyways, are there some good tutorials or tips you can give me? You know for camera shake, gunshots, motion blur, holographs,and stuff like that. I just really want to be better in post-pro. So, any help, videos, suggestions, program downloads, anything you can give to help me would be great.

Thanks!

-Eddie

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Holographs... do you mean holograms like in Star Wars? I've done that. So what you do is you take photos of the guy in the hologram separately (pref in front of a greenscreen) You then mask him onto each of the shots in your set/scene/wherever you want him, but while doing so you tint the saturation to look blue, and also make him about half transparent, or however much you want. Maybe add fuzz/white lines.

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Hey, Eddie, if you want, I'd be happy to give you a detailed explanation on how to do somewhat cartoon-y home-made gun flares:

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/263253_262958533718334_100000125687436_1283151_598958_n.jpg

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Nice! Could you post a tutorial?

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Here is my lightsaber tutorial.
It uses Adobe After Effects, but I'm pretty sure you can use the technique in other programs, Final Cut Express, for example.

I also had a muzzle flash tutorial, and a Blender Animation tutorial, but they were deleted when I got my computer upgraded.

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DerTarchin wrote:

Holographs... do you mean holograms like in Star Wars? I've done that. So what you do is you take photos of the guy in the hologram separately (pref in front of a greenscreen) You then mask him onto each of the shots in your set/scene/wherever you want him, but while doing so you tint the saturation to look blue, and also make him about half transparent, or however much you want. Maybe add fuzz/white lines.

BTW long time no talk!

Thanks DerTarchin! I could really use that. But one thing I have trouble with when greenscreening is I can't move the guy around the background image once I've screened him in. I use Wax. So do you know a good program that I can greenscreen in and also move the greenscreened image around in? Thanks.

@ANP: Yes! I would love to see how to do that effect!!!

@Everybody: Also what I'm looking for is, in Pancake Island and Viva la Vida by NXT, hpw can I do some of the camera movements that are used? Can that be done in editing? What's required? If not how can I do it with my camera while filming? Also camera shake?

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I guess I'll get to making a tutorial for my effect. I'll probably make a topic for it and try to get it out soon-ish.

For camera movements, I recommend that you do them all in in shot instead.
They look better that way.

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OK any tips for doing that?

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Fancypants has tutorial on camera movement.
In that, he uses a tripod. But it's possible to do camera movement with a webcam (I think you have one).
I built my webcam cradle so it has a flat plate as a base. That way, it can be attached to different rigs.
The rig that I use most often is a left/right panning rig. I copied 0ld Scratch's technique, which is a few plates and a round stud piece. To build your own rig, just think of what movement you need to do and build something that does it.

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Set the camera on the ground, and just turn it. He he. It's great for pans. Just think of it like regular animation. mini/smile It takes some getting used to. I used it a lot in the animation of How to Not Rob a Bank, which hasn't been released yet. Also, some types of tripods are really great for up and down movement, as well as pan movements. We found one recently and are using it a lot in "The Entrance" one of those would be a good investment.

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EDIT: I made the topic for the gun flares. Spent a lot of time on that. D:

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Thanks! Yeah I have a rig but the instructions helped.

Anyone know of some good greenscreening software that allows you to move the greenscreened image?

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Preferably free.

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Try Cinegobs Keyer.

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Can you move the top keyed layer around the back layer/frame?

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No. It can't do compositing, only keying.

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What program can do both?

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For some camera movements like panning, I built a camera rig. It consists of my ordinary camera cradle with  train wheels underneath and then the whole thing is set on a train track so it can be moved freely. I then built a handle on top of the cradle, to assist movement. I had a few previous designs, but the one described below was the most successful.
The camera cradle with plates underneath with a 2xlength of the cradle space. Then I got a bunch of bricks and put smooth plates on top to make the track, then I added 4 wheels to the cradle base, and put it onto the track. It worked great, but I wanted something that used less bricks, so I switched to the train track idea. If you want pictures, I may post some and maybe a video demonstration of the train-track tracking thing. mini/smile

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Thanks guys! I figured out most of what I wanted! Thanks!

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DerTarchin wrote:

Holographs... do you mean holograms like in Star Wars? I've done that. So what you do is you take photos of the guy in the hologram separately (pref in front of a greenscreen) You then mask him onto each of the shots in your set/scene/wherever you want him, but while doing so you tint the saturation to look blue, and also make him about half transparent, or however much you want. Maybe add fuzz/white lines.

BTW long time no talk!

Yeah, we haven't talked in a while. Any idea how I can do fuzz/white lines?

Also, anyone know how to do motion blurs?

And any idea what luma keying is?

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