Re: The Video Editing Thread

doctormedoctoryou wrote:

(...) Use the right tool for the job and you'll do a better job.

However, if you do want to use AE to edit, good on ya! It's very powerful in terms of connecting clips together, and gives you a little more freedom than some editing suites. If you use something for another purpose that it's not exactly the direct purpose, you're growing your wits and skill.

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all i'm saying is you'd be better using an edit package to edit and an effects package to do effects.

Just because its possible to use one to do the other, you would learn more appropriate skills if learnt the right way to do something, not the bodge up way.

Doing that will work out quicker in the long run, allowing you to spend more time being creative than working around a problem. But hey, if thats what you want to do - its your time being lost.

AE certainly is powerful, but it is not very good for editing. There is a lot more to editing than simply butting two clips together. Yes you can do it, but its not quick, its not intuitive and its not easy to try out different edit choices.

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I speak from experience and I sure as hell know what editing is mini/wink
To spend money on a big editing program is not wise if you already have AE, that's a good point.

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so do i.  I have been in tv post-production for over 20 years as an editor/motion graphic designer/sound editor/director, etc.
I'm not saying spend big money - just find the right tool.
AE is not the right tool for editing. No argument, it simply is not!

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AGREED! I am definitely not going to buy Premiere(editing program) just to put all my videos one one timeline instead of each layer having one layer for itself...it's just not worth he money. Besides, I find AE just good enough for editing anyway.

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VanderFlame Studios wrote:

AGREED! I am definitely not going to buy Premiere(editing program) just to put all my videos one one timeline instead of each layer having one layer for itself...it's just not worth he money. Besides, I find AE just good enough for editing anyway.

Or you could use lightworks. It's free, and professional (The Kings Speech was edited on it).

Seriously, free and professional > After effects.

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Re: The Video Editing Thread

Anteater201 Studios wrote:

Is their a good chroma-keying program out there that is free?

CineGobs Keyer.
mini/wink
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Thank you for the suggestion bengreenow.....but I actually have a Mac mini/sad I wish it worked for Mac though!
Thanks anyways!!! mini/smile

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Man iMovie's chroma-keying sucks!!!! mini/tongue

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oh yes, I was also wondering if there was a similar software like that, but I need it to be able to key any color and run on a mac (or linux)
Also, do you know if there's a way to run windows programs on a Mac, because I really wanna get Squrirlz Water FX but it's not compatible...

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What is ''editing'' anyway? If AE isn't an editing program...then what is it?

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I would count AE as an editing program.....because you are doing it "after".

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Me too...other people say that's not though. I want to find out people's opinions.

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After Effects is a special effects/VFX program.
It's not an editing program specifically because they intended you to put all the clips together and cut things with something like Final Cut Pro or iMovie.

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Well you've got mine! mini/wink It makes sense though because after you shoot footage or make a brickfilm, you edit the movie. So it is pretty much the same thing as editing except adding special effects to your video...

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topitmunkeydog wrote:

oh yes, I was also wondering if there was a similar software like that, but I need it to be able to key any color and run on a mac (or linux)
Also, do you know if there's a way to run windows programs on a Mac, because I really wanna get Squrirlz Water FX but it's not compatible...

you have linux according to that post so you can have (I don't know what its called) the program in Linux that allows you to run Windows programs.

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In its most basic description, editing is the name given to the act of taking a bunch of individual shots, and deciding which order to put them, and where each shot will start and end.

To do this effectively, you need to be working in a medium where you can quickly make changes and review those changes in realtime without having to render every time. Editing is where you set the pace of your film by carefully deciding what you show the viewer and when.

Great rushes can be ruined by a poor editor, but a great editor can often make poor rushes look good!

Editing packages are designed for the specific purpose of letting you pick and choose your shots, make the cuts, make changes, review your choices, make multiple versions to compare.


After Effects, on the other hand, is designed to let you bring your chosen shots and create special effects using those shots, then render them out so they can be added to your edit timeline.
Its flexibility lies in its ability to let you design and composite effects from multiple layers, using many different plug-ins.

Yes, you can edit in AE but its not designed for that, and so you have to compromise. Every cut will need to be rendered to watch it back. You won't be able to watch all your film in realtime.
Just like in most editing software you can do some effects - but they are a compromise, so the effects are never particular good.

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To do this effectively, you need to be working in a medium where you can quickly make changes and review those changes in realtime without having to render every time. Editing is where you set the pace of your film by carefully deciding what you show the viewer and when.

I have to repeat this. I would rather rip my eyeballs out of my skull and eat them than use AE as an editor. You're far better off going for a non-linear editor. Rendering the sequence in AE every time you want to watch just a 2 second clip would be a pain in the ass, especially if you're working with larger video clips.

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topitmunkeydog wrote:

oh yes, I was also wondering if there was a similar software like that, but I need it to be able to key any color and run on a mac (or linux)
Also, do you know if there's a way to run windows programs on a Mac, because I really wanna get Squrirlz Water FX but it's not compatible...

If you have a windows disc you can install it on your mac. If you don't have a windows disc but already have linux installed(you weren't really clear about that) you can try running it in WINE.

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AE is a compositing program.

Premiere Pro is great editing software. VanderFlame, do you know how confusing it gets when you have 50 video clips and each of them has got its own timeline (like in AE)? There's a reason this isn't the case in Premiere.

For all of you that have to figure out which software to go for: keep in mind AE's got the best chroma keying onboard because of the Keylight plug-in. And Lightworks is a very good free editing program, I believe.

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