Topic: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

Hi,

the question is pretty simple. How do I do smooth zooming? Do I have to move my camera closer, or do people do this in post-production or whatever? I mean, cameras usually haven't got the possibility to zoom in or out in small intervals. So utilising the in-camera zoom probably isn't the best idea unless you intend to do a jump cut, right? I'd like to know if I'm missing something, because in-camera zooming would be comfortable.

How do you guys achieve a zoom effect in your films?

Cheers!

-pacific

Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

I've never done a zoom effect in a film, so take my thoughts with a rather large grain of salt, but I have done basic camera movements like dolly shots and the like. I'd assume that the best thing to do is move the camera, but very very slightly each frame, to achieve a smooth zoom. If I were you, I'd try physically moving the camera to see how smooth that looks, and if you're unhappy with the results, zoom in post-production instead. (Or if you're more comfortable in post-production softwares, do it in post-production first and see how that looks; I just personally find doing as much as possible in the actual filming easier than trying to figure out programs.)

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Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

I can't speak for other here, but you are right most cameras do not allow small zoom increments. What I have found the best to do is using a video editing program, such as Sony Vegas 9, which allos a smooth zoom, or pan within the editing proccess. The results are great.

Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

I do it manually, also because I have no idea how to do it with a comnputer editing program. But well, I use a videocam, so it allows me to zoom slowly.

Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

I do it in Post Production, in terms of Zoom and Pan. I change focus manually with my QCP9000.

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Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

fib12345 wrote:

I do it in Post Production, in terms of Zoom and Pan. I change focus manually with my QCP9000.

The result

Very impressive results. Comparing that video with tests that I've done, I have this to say: It is a difference of style. Doing it all with the physical camera gives it the stop-motion feel, whereas doing it in post-production gives it a more professional feel (but also more out of place compared with the animation). I suppose it all depends on what sort of mood you're going for, and whether you're more comfortable with stop-motion or whatever editing program you may have.

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Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

I preferably use keyframing in post production.  If you do it in production then you can loose quality.

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Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

Ok, so I would just hold the camera still and animate, then After Effects (or whatever) would implement the zoom effect afterwards. The only problem I see with this is that your footage loses quality, as you systematically delete pixels around a certain section of your images. But then, it won't be a problem for me as my native uncompressed resolution is about 2 GB for 4 seconds of video. Crazy, I know! mini/smile

Thanks for your replies, guys.

-pacific

Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

A pan is where the camera or set moves. A zoom is where you just magnify the image itself in postproduction. Pans tend to look better, and this is accomplished by moving the camera (or maybe using one of those fancy editing softwares)
To make zooms, I just use the Ken Burns effect on iMovie mini/bigsmile

Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

A pan is just the camera turning on a fixed spot. You can't say it looks better than zoom, they are two different camera movements.

-pacific

Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

Well when you are zooming you can do Ease in and Ease out, it will be smooth
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Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

Is there a free program that can pan and keyframe?

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Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

*Axogon Composer.

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Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

I have it but how does it work?

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Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

Well, the only problem with making a digital zoom is that, if you're not working with very high resolution footage, then you'll see some grain and loss of quality very fast.

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Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

Yep if you shoot in high resolution then there's no problem! Just do the zooming in the post-production.

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Can someone tell me how to zoom in and out in Axogon?

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Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

I zoom and pan while animating, and in post. I feel that just doing it in post exclusively makes it look a little fake, unless you do it REALLY well. Digital zooming, will cause you to lose some quality, and you can't get all of the camera movements that you can get while animating.

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Re: Smooth zooming: how to do it?

Keyframing works for me. Almost all adobe video editing poducts have the keyframing ability. Wax can keyframe also.

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