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so should i get a gorrila?
so should i get a gorrila?
My honest opinion: NO! I got the gorillapod DSLR, and it's found a new home somewhere in a drawer. Very 'bump' sensitve, impossible to get it in the exact position you want. Panning is nearly impossible. Get a stable table tripod like the vanguard vs82.
Sure, the gorillapod looks fancy, but (at least for me) doesn't get the job done.
Aero_Studios wrote:so should i get a gorrila?
My honest opinion: NO! I got the gorillapod DSLR, and it's found a new home somewhere in a drawer. Very 'bump' sensitve, impossible to get it in the exact position you want. Panning is nearly impossible. Get a stable table tripod like the vanguard vs82.
Sure, the gorillapod looks fancy, but (at least for me) doesn't get the job done.
do you know the minimum height of the vanguard?
I wonder how well a configuration like this would work:
You could use a tripod top such as this, and hot glue it to a large plate. Then you have a base to build off of with Technic or regular bricks. It wouldn't be very tall, and would be much like a regular camera stand that people make for the QC9000.
The best option though, would be to have enough room by your animation table to have a regular tripod.
boardron wrote:Aero_Studios wrote:so should i get a gorrila?
My honest opinion: NO! I got the gorillapod DSLR, and it's found a new home somewhere in a drawer. Very 'bump' sensitve, impossible to get it in the exact position you want. Panning is nearly impossible. Get a stable table tripod like the vanguard vs82.
Sure, the gorillapod looks fancy, but (at least for me) doesn't get the job done.do you know the minimum height of the vanguard?
I can see your problem! I solved this by making a small wooden tabel on which i place the film sets. So on my big table i have the tripod and a small table with the film set. This way i can still get "eye level shots"...
First of all, is this just for high shots or is it used for everything? If that's the case then I can't help you. What I would suggest is overhaul your whole stability department and build a rig out of LEGO to stabilize your camera. Also, if you are taking your frames by pressing a button on your camera I suggest you look into capturing your frames on your PC by connecting your camera by cord to your computer. Then, take the shots by pressing enter in a frame capture program. Not all cameras function like this so it may not work. Even though pressing the button might have a satisfying feeling to it, it can cause camera shake. ![]()
Of course you may already do all of this in which case this paragraph will be totally useless to you.
I film on a table with a pullout tray, on which i place my desktop tripod. The vanguard needs to have a very small minimum height, so the shots are proper
I'll post a picture of my setup... That'll explain what I mean...
Edit: here it is...
As you can see in the image:
- I have a fairy large desk-table.
- On the table i have made a small animation table: a square piece of sturdy wood (MDF in my case) about 80cm x 80cm. Supported by adjustable "furniture-feet". Don't know the English name for these but you can buy these at a local hardware store for about 2 $ each, or less
- The Vanguard tripod with my cam is on the desk-table, the set on the animation table.
The minimum height of the tripod is at least 15 cm.
Hope that explains it a little bit.
I used to have a normal (large) tripod standing on the floor and have my set on the white table. That caused a lot of set dither (small movements), aside from the occasional "Oh-bollocks-I-Kicked-Tripod-Now-I-Can-Start-All-Over-Again" situation.
Last edited by boardron (July 10, 2011 (12:45pm))
I'll post a picture of my setup... That'll explain what I mean...
thank you, that will be most helpful
Sorry, see above....
Edit: My solution of course is very nice, but costs money. The main point is: if your gonna use a tripod, spend some bucks more and buy a decent one. That will help your animation skills tremendously. There are always ways to heighten your set so you can get "eye-level-shots" with your cam on the tripod.
BTW: the pull-out tray you mentioned sounds highly unstable to me...
Last edited by boardron (July 10, 2011 (12:58pm))
Sorry, see above....
Edit: My solution of course is very nice, but costs money. The main point is: if your gonna use a tripod, spend some bucks more and buy a decent one. That will help your animation skills tremendously. There are always ways to heighten your set so you can get "eye-level-shots" with your cam on the tripod.
BTW: the pull-out tray you mentioned sounds highly unstable to me...
It is fairly stable, and is much better than what I was using before. Also, if I was to press a button on my camera(not on the center, towards the right) would it adjust the camera angle on the vanguard? I ask this because there is no way for me to connect my camera to a pc and use a frame-capture program to take pictures, I must use the button.
Basically, is the rotating bit at the top stiff?
Edit:
also, the vs 86 is £8 cheaper than the vs 82, should i get that instead?
VS 82 : http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vanguard-VS-82- B0002J2TLC
VS 86 : http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vanguard-VS-86- mp;sr=1-11
Last edited by Aero_Studios (July 10, 2011 (01:08pm))
The tripod is stable and stiff. I regularly press buttons on my cam (focus/zoom) and it stays fixed. Although you should of course be carefull doing that...
The 82 has tilt options which I use in almost every shot. So spend the extra 8 pounds
However, consider this: if you're gonna spend 28 pounds on a tripod, you might want to buy something else instead: the logitech quickcam pro 9000. It costs 40 pounds (new! Used probably cheaper). Although it won't have the image quality of your current camera, you don't have to buy a tripod! You can easily make a cradle for this with your legos. And you can "shoot" directly from your computer.... Lot's of people use this Cam for brickfilming with very good results.
Just a matter of washing your dad's car a couple of times extra...:lol:
The tripod is stable and stiff. I regularly press buttons on my cam (focus/zoom) and it stays fixed. Although you should of course be carefull doing that...
The 82 has tilt options which I use in almost every shot. So spend the extra 8 pounds
However, consider this: if you're gonna spend 28 pounds on a tripod, you might want to buy something else instead: the logitech quickcam pro 9000. It costs 40 pounds (new! Used probably cheaper). Although it won't have the image quality of your current camera, you don't have to buy a tripod! You can easily make a cradle for this with your legos. And you can "shoot" directly from your computer.... Lot's of people use this Cam for brickfilming with very good results.
Just a matter of washing your dad's car a couple of times extra...:lol:
It is just not possible to have a set near my computer, thanks though anyway. lol.
Thank you for your help very much and everyone else, I will probably get the vs-82, and sell my old tripod.
a few quick questions:
1) how do you take aerail shots and...
2) Is there anywhere cheaper i can buy in the UK?
a few quick questions:
1) how do you take aerail shots and...
2) Is there anywhere cheaper i can buy in the UK?
Well,
1) assuming that with aerail you mean birds-eye perpective? Just place the Cam higher or the set lower. Couple of books under the tripod might do the trick. Personally, i break out the big tripod...
2) don't know, me from Holland... ![]()
Aero_Studios wrote:a few quick questions:
1) how do you take aerail shots and...
2) Is there anywhere cheaper i can buy in the UK?
Well,
1) assuming that with aerail you mean birds-eye perpective? Just place the Cam higher or the set lower. Couple of books under the tripod might do the trick. Personally, i break out the big tripod...
![]()
2) don't know, me from Holland...
Thank you.
Well, I don't use a tripod. I use putty to keep my camera in place. I line the bottom of my camera and stick it into whatever position I need. I do this so that it allows me to get camera angles I couldn't achieve with a tripod (tripods are just too big.) It's a little shaky, but it could easily be fixed with after effects.
Well, I don't use a tripod. I use putty to keep my camera in place. I line the bottom of my camera and stick it into whatever position I need. I do this so that it allows me to get camera angles I couldn't achieve with a tripod (tripods are just too big.) It's a little shaky, but it could easily be fixed with after effects.
Thanks for the suggestion but I already have a tripod and a set-up similar to what boardron suggested. Besides, how would you do camera movements?
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