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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Dear Zeus, Vishnu, Marduk, Odin or any other supreme god who's listening,

Please close this thread.

Your favourite puny mortal,

-jampot]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (jampot)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[They did kill off many 1st Gen TF characters in the real movie.  From memory, they were in order:

Brawn
Prowl
Ratchet
Ironhide
Wheeljack & Sunstreaker
Optimus Prime
Starscream

Others were not killed off, but given new forms.  In order:

Thundercracker: Scourge
Insecticon clones: The Sweeps
Skywarp: Cyclonus
Insecticon clone: Cyclonus clone
Megatron: Galvatron
Hot Rod: Rodimus Prime

And, of course, Unicron dies.

Excluding insecticons, that makes 11 characters from 1984-1985 that were eliminated. Hot Rod is #12, but he didn't appear until the movie & 3rd year of toys (1986).

Yeah, I can recite the entire movie, word for word, timing everything with the soundtrack running in my head so it's matched to the movie to the second!

In GI Joe the Movie (1987), which was made for TV, Duke was going to die, but the bad reaction to Optimus' death changed their minds.  Instead he went into a coma.  They already animated it so he dies, so they overdubbed a few lines: "He's going into a coma", and at the very end, "Great news!  Duke's coming out of his coma!"  I own a VHS of GI Joe: The Movie signed by Sgt. Slaughter himself.]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (HoldingOurOwn)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/316889/#p316889</link>
			<description><![CDATA[EDIT: Never mind, I understand now.]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Mickey)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/316872/#p316872</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Transformers (1986)?
Was that the one where they killed off a lot of the 1st generation Autobots? 

I grew up on Voltron, M.A.S.K.,Visionaries, Bionic Six, Centurions, Silverhawks and Captain Planet, so watching a full-length feature where so many of the good guys die was not a good experience for me.]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (JF)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I watched Taxi Driver at my brother's request.  He loves the Genre of what he calls "garbage person movies" (One Flew Over the Cuukoo's nest/ Falling Down/ Bad Lieutenant, etc.)  I thought the movie was awful and am amazed by the hype it always gets.  Best part is when Deniro says to sweet Iris, "He called you a piece of chicken." Ive been bored by his other films, the ones that I saw, but that's just me.  One of my favorite films, "2001: A Space Odyssey" seems to drive all my friends to tears.  But we all agree that Transformers: The movie (1986) rocks!

By the way, my brother's first band recorded a song about Sweet Iris with Taxi Driver movie samples.]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (HoldingOurOwn)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 19:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/315077/#p315077</link>
			<description><![CDATA[STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD!

apparently BiM thinks I'm quadro posting]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[sean.m.carroll95@gmail.com (CarrollFilms)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 04:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/315060/#p315060</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Goodness now the movie ruined:(]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[theeflowguy@gmail.com (Kizar)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 01:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=CarrollFilms]holy balls this thread is still beating a dead horse.

Someone just lock and close this freakin' thread already.[/quote]

I know, right. Seriously guys, there's nothing left to be said. There shouldn't even be a 4th page. It's time for this thing to die. Just let it be.]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Mickey)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 01:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/315055/#p315055</link>
			<description><![CDATA[holy balls this thread is still beating a dead horse.

Someone just lock and close this freakin' thread already.]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[sean.m.carroll95@gmail.com (CarrollFilms)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2014 01:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I just found this thread, didn't read every post because it would've taken too much.

I disagree especially with you saying Scorsese is one of the most overrated directors of all time, I think he deserves all the recognition he has: after all, he made films like Taxi Driver, Raging bull and Goodfellas, which I think are some of the finest movies I've seen. I'm curious to know which director you think is the most overrated of all, though.

About the rest, yes, I know a movie it's just a movie, but one could argue some movies do indeed tell the truth about some aspects of our lives, as any form of art does, imo.
I also usually don't like to judge a movie without having seen it.

I don't think the message of the Lego movie is that Business man are bad, and anyway, since you already know what is fake and what is not, why shouldn't you go watch it? After all it won't change you, and you might even like it, or discover that the Evil Business Man of the Lego movie isn't as bad as it seems, and that what the Lego Club magazine said isn't actually correct: it might happen.

I'm not trying to convince you to go watch the movie (the trailer didn't really impress me either, the jokes weren't that funny, although the animation looks amazing), it's just that it didn't sound to me a valid reason.]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2014 21:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Well, I copied/pasted the comments an case you edit them l8r, but I'm sure the rest of the forum can also see the difference in tone.  To end the cycle, I accept your apology, acknowledge your decency in doing so, but will no longer respond to or read yr comments on this thread, as I know your opinions already.]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (HoldingOurOwn)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jan 2014 16:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[HoldingOurOwn, I never attacked your character, I merely attacked your argument. Again, I still apologise for the way in which I did so. I should have, at the time, supplied some more points to go along with my paragraph of words, and although I felt it was bouncing off the already present sentiment, I recognise the error in my ways. It did 'diminish' my argument.

That said, I cannot help but to see a double standard forming. You take offense to what I said (on narcism, hypocrisy) in the my previous paragraphs of explanation, yet these same points were covered in much the same way by numerous people on page 1 of this thread, and yet they do not receive scrutiny? 

Anyhow, I do enjoy life, I do regularly appreciate others opinions (unless I find their foundation to be a very questionable or very disagreeable: see this thread), and I am actually very sorry for the snarky and general yuck of my original statement.]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Carousel)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2014 21:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Carousel,

While everyone else who disagreed with my post (Except Carroll films, but he's being funny), your posts were petty, vile personal attacks.  And to recycle your favorite quote, "it diminishes your argument", or would have, had you actually had one.  That my concerns are a nonissue is your opinion.  It is enough of an issue that many cared enough to weigh in.  Because you turned personal, you inferred things before rationally thinking about what you read.  Because I mentioned one of my cartoons, it's a "shining example" and I'm a narcisist!  Countless times my gratitude has been to the BiM community members, most more talented than myself, whose help I'm indebted to for my series' existence.  Second, the "impressionable" children are the Lego movie's target audience, an age where they absorb everything, not BiM members.  3) I'm "preachy" for expressing my opinion, though I never told anyone how to think.  Your problem is that this contemptuous aditude isn't just towards me, even in your "apology".  It's pervasive throughout all your postings.  You are the end all & be all on everything.  Whatever credibility, if any, you may have had is gone.

Everyone else here from all persuasions were passioned and honest- and civil.  They all deserve respect and have mine.  Please learn to chill and have a more serene outlook, maybe enjoy life, and face that we share the world with people out there of various opinions.]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (HoldingOurOwn)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Why I won't be watching Lego Movie]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Look, I did jump the gun, and subsequently came off admittedly very snarky indeed - and for that I do apologise. The people prior to me (jstudios for one) summed up quite excellently what I was feeling in terms of your post. I felt no need to rehash what they had said, yet I still presented by basic opinions on your post (not you) in a fairly grumpy manner, which was likely the wrong thing to do.

That said, although it could have been presented in a calmer or more eloquent fashion, I do not believe what I wrote to be entirely unjustified. 

After debunking another supposedly flawed film, your putting forward of your own films as effectively golden examples of filmmaking, whether intentional or not, [i]was[/i] still narcism. 

Telling all us supposedly impressionable peeps about how the movies deploy and preach personally disagreeable or false stereotypes and life messages towards children, when in actual fact, you yourself, in your preaching, are doing the exact same thing. Is that not hypocritical?

Thus I find your concerns and their respective justifications over the Lego Movie very odd. The fact that a character portrays the business world in a bad light within the Lego Movie is practically a non-issue. I can appreciate your dislike of stereotypes, but it still a microscopic and extremely insignificant issue in the scope of things. The hypocrisy, narcism and questionable examples of your original post inspired the comment you got.]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2014 22:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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