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			<title><![CDATA[Royalty Free Music and Sound]]></title>
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Here is a list to get good quality Royalty Free Music for little to no price.

[b][u]Places to Get Music Free:[/u][/b]

[url=http://www.musopen.com/music.php]Musopen[/url] ~The users of this site aggregate sheet music and recordings of classical pieces in the public domain. This is probably the best site out there for public domain classical music recordings.

[url=www.Incompetech.com]Incompetech[/url] ~The King of royalty free music, Kevin MacLeod. His stuff is under the Creative Commons like most of the stuff here. While his stuff is overused, there is a reason for this. It's good. much of his older work is free.

[url=https://timbeek.com/]Tim Beek[/url] ~In a similar vein to Kevin Macleod, Tim is also a composer who specialized in making royalty free music.

[url=http://www.pacdv.com/sounds/free-music.html]PacDv[/url] ~This seems pretty legit. The music sounds good and he does sound effects too, all he asks is for you to credit him.

[url=http://www.audionautix.com/index.html] Audionautix.com[/url] ~This stuff isn't too bad, and all you need to do is credit him. I don't know how large his selection is though.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/audiolibrary]YouTube[/url] ~It appears YouTube has a royalty free music library for creators to use. 

[url=http://dig.ccmixter.org/]ccMixer[/url] ~A small library of music; the overall quality of the music is pretty good, just try to look past the ugly CSS.

[url=https://cctrax.com/]ccTrax[/url] ~A library of mostly house, new age, and general electronic music. The licensing varies from album to album, but much of it is under the creative commons license, and free to download.

[url=https://soundcloud.com/]SoundCloud[/url] ~I cannot stress enough that [i]not everything on SoundCloud is Royalty Free[/i], most of it isn't. But there are artists on SoundCloud who do create and share royalty-free music on the platform.

[url=https://mixkit.co/]MixKit[/url] ~Created by the people at Envato Elements, this is a great source for royalty free music, sounds, stock footage, and more. 

[url=https://pixabay.com/]Pixabay[/url] ~Similar to MixKit, this is also a great source for sounds, royalty free music, stock footage, and more. 

[url=https://freepd.com/]FreePD[/url] ~A nice selection of royalty free music all licensed under the Creative Commons License. How do you feel about Emojis?

[url=https://www.fesliyanstudios.com/]Fesliyan Studios[/url] ~A modest selection of royalty free music all licensed under the Creative Commons License. They have sound effects as well.

[url=https://www.no-copyright-music.com/]Liborio Conti[/url] ~A small selection of royalty free music created by composer Liborio Conti. I find his EMDR ethereal compositions particularly interesting.

[url=https://soundimage.org/]Sound Image[/url] ~A small selection of royalty free music created by Eric Matyas. He has sound effects available as well.

[url=https://archive.org/]Internet Archive[/url] ~This is a great tool all around. This is a website that aggregates free materials from across the web. While not everything is royalty-free or public domain, it isn't hard to search for material that is royalty free. You can find anything from music to audio dramas and old radio broadcasts.


[u][b]Places to Get Music For a Fee:[/b][/u]

[url=http://www.musicloops.com/]Music Loops[/url] ~ From what I've seen, not a bad site. A lot of the music is cheap in price, and the quality is higher than many of the other sites on the list.

[url=www.royaltyfreemusic.com]Royalty Free Music[/url] ~ These are fairly high in quality, and tend to have longer running times. Super expensive though, I would only recommend this if you have money you don't mind burning.

[url=https://machinimasound.com/]MachinimaSound[/url] ~ While having a history based in video game media, they've opened their gates a bit more. The music tends to be cheap in price, and they have multiple options for licencing. They have a smaller selection though.

[url=www.Incompetech.com]Incompetech[/url] ~ Kevin MacLeod again. Much of his newer work is available for a small price and is no longer free entirely, if you find the price acceptable, you can grab it, its still royalty free.

[url=https://freemusicarchive.org/]Free Music Archive[/url] ~The site is a bit difficult to navigate, and the prices of music vary from piece to piece, but the quality is pretty strong. 

[url=https://licensing.jamendo.com/en/royalty-free-music]Jamendo[/url] ~High quality music with fairly affordable pricing options. They offer a monthly subscription option if you want to pay $50 a month for brickfilm music? 

[url=https://icons8.com/music]Icons8[/url] ~High quality music with fairly affordable pricing options. They also offer a monthly subscription option that's a lot more forgiving.

[url=https://www.beatpick.com/]BeatPick[/url] ~High quality music, several pricing options based on what you need.

[url=https://www.worldhiphopbeats.com/free_hip_hop_beats.html]WorldHipHop Beats[/url] ~A collection of hip hop pieces under the creative commons license. They're pretty affordable too. 


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Here is a list of places to get good quality Sound for little to no price.

[b][u]Places to Get Sounds Free:[/u][/b]

[url=http://www.freesound.org/]The Freesound Project[/url] ~ This site has a pretty large library and a lot of good content. The quality varies as there numerous contributors, but its fairly dependable, and well used by the Brickfilmer community. An account is necessary to download.

[url=http://brickfilms.com/resources/]Brickfilms.com Resources [/url] ~ Lovely collection here, small, yes. But they are good quality.

[url=http://www.bargus.org/soundlibrary.html]Bargus[/url] ~Fairly sure these are free, but they sound good, and they are under the creative commons.

[url=http://www.sonniss.com/gameaudiogdc2016/]GDC Audio Bundle(s)[/url] ~ This is a little different. Soniss is a royalty-free-for-a-fee site that has recently started doing an annual dump of royalty-free sound effects to celebrate GDC. They are high quality and come in a large collection, so feel free to grab it and sift around, or dig around online for the batch from the previous year.

[url=https://soundbible.com/]SoundBible[/url] ~A small high quality library here.

[url=https://www.soundjay.com/]SoundJay[/url] ~A surprisingly robust high quality library.

[url=https://99sounds.org/free-sound-effects/]99Sounds[/url] ~A series of sound effect bundles, you can get them for free but you're encouraged to donate. They also supply free plugins for FL Studio and other tools. 

[url=https://sound-effects.bbcrewind.co.uk/]BBC Sound Effects[/url] ~A sound library free for non-commercial use courtesy of the BBC.

[url=https://www.zapsplat.com/]Zapsplat[/url] ~An incredibly wide variety of free high quality sounds. Licensing may vary on these, so be sure to check that the sound you want is under the creative commons license before you download. You download both individual sounds and sound packs here. You are required to make an account.

[url=https://gamesounds.xyz/]GameSounds[/url] ~An aggregation of sound effects that are royalty free and in one place. Some of the other sources from this list make an appearance here.

[url=https://www.freesfx.co.uk/Default.aspx]FreeSFX[/url] ~An wide variety of free high quality sound effects. You are required to make an account.

[url=https://www.soundgator.com/]SoundGator[/url] ~A small but varied library of free high quality sounds. You are required to have an account.

[url=https://www.american.edu/library/mediaservices/sound_effects_collection.cfm]American University Audio Library[/url] ~A collection of sound effect bundles, courtesy of the school.

[url=https://www.playonloop.com/sound-effects-for-videos/]PlayOnLoop[/url] ~A small collection of sound effects, both in bundle and in individual download form.

[url=https://www.soundeffectsplus.com/]SoundEffects+[/url] ~A small collection of sound effects. Quality seems good. A bit disorganized.

[url=https://www.adobe.com/products/audition/offers/AdobeAuditionDLCSFX.html]The Adobe Sound Library[/url] ~An audio library of free sounds provided by Adobe for users of Adobe Audition and other Adobe products.

[url=https://www.facebook.com/sound/collection/]The Facebook Sound Library[/url] ~An audio library of free sounds commissioned by Facebook in order to foster creativity.

[url=https://mixkit.co/]MixKit[/url] ~Created by the people at Envato Elements, this is a great source for sounds, royalty free music, stock footage, and more. 

[url=https://pixabay.com/]Pixabay[/url] ~Similar to MixKit, this is also a great source for sounds, royalty free music, stock footage, and more. 

[url=https://www.fesliyanstudios.com/]Fesliyan Studios[/url] ~A fair selection of sound effects all licensed under the Creative Commons License. They have music as well.

[u][b]Places to Get Sounds for a Fee:[/b][/u]

[url=www.soundsnap.com]SoundSnap[/url] ~These are incredibly good, but pricey. They seem to be shifting from a pay-per-sound model to a monthly subscription.  

[url=http://www.sounddogs.com/catsearch.asp?Type=1]SoundDogs[/url] ~They are priced per sound, but they are never the less, good.

[url=https://audiojungle.net/?osr=tn]Audio Jungle[/url] ~Formerly Soungle, high quality sound effects library, with pretty forgiving prices.

[url=https://www.freesoundeffects.com/]FreeSoundEffects[/url] ~A moderate-sized library of generally good quality sounds, at varying prices.

[url=https://sfx.productioncrate.com/sound-fx-categories.html]SoundsCrate[/url] ~A collection of sound effects, payment is done through a subscription service.


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Although this is the place to get royalty free music in a hurry, finding a composer has proven to be hard as well.
[i](Please note that custom musical compositions take time, do not contact a composer for music you need in a hurry. Please also note that site members come and go as they like, and there is no non-invasive way to ensure that all members listed here are still active. If you reach out and don't hear back in a few weeks, it may be best to assume that member is not active on the forum at this time.)[/i]
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[b]Tom Gudde[/b][i] T.G-Tom[/i]
[size=small]A respected member and an experienced composer, Tom is a well appreciated member who has made a return to BricksinMotion recently. Tom composes for a variety of people but composes only if your work is decent, so don't just throw anything his way.[/size]
[url=http://www.bricksinmotion.com/forums/topic/13146/need-a-soundtrack/]Thread[/url] ~ [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Kx6W8SH-4]SampleA[/url] ~ [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO3ZtlLYK7U]SampleB[/url] ~[url=http://www.bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/89/]Profile[/url]

[b]Spencer Olson[/b][i] OlsonStudios[/i]
[size=small]Also a well known member, Spencer composes for most brickfilmers provided the work is quality.[/size]
[url=http://soundcloud.com/spencerolson/wasteland-work-in-progress]SampleA[/url] ~ [url=http://soundcloud.com/spencerolson/3rd-generation]SampleB[/url] ~[url=http://www.bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/254/]Profile[/url]

[b]Dylan Johnson[/b] [i]Dyland[/i]
[size=small]A fairly old member, Dyland composes orchestral, electronic, piano, and psychedelic rock soundtracks. He will compose regardless of the content of the film under the condition that he see it before composing. [/size]
 [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9hhRXQXuFM&list=PLdqSNkiGW0Z_jw9olqGf2rFcbB6w6Hu3e]SampleA[/url] ~ [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K64FPu7LX7U&list=PLdqSNkiGW0Z_z4ymRCV8qkr83_T_rFQaa]SampleB[/url] ~ [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ojJYdylQHI&list=PLdqSNkiGW0Z-Qj7SlP9drbzOpkUGbRJj1&index=15]SampleC[/url] ~[url=http://www.bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/2257/]Profile[/url]

[b]Gabriel Ness[/b][i] megagill74[/i]
[size=small]Gabriel is a newer member, and mainly composes orchestral and classical music. He composes for brickfilmers provided the work is quality. He will not compose for work containing explicit content.[/size]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/gabriel-ness-music/thirty-year-war]SampleA[/url] ~ [url=https://soundcloud.com/gabriel-ness-music/hero-edited]SampleB[/url] ~[url=http://www.bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/125844/]Profile[/url]

[b]Jonathan Ormandy[/b] [i]Cooked Cat[/i]
[size=small] A fairly regular member, Jonathan and a friend of his have been composing for a while now. Jon is willing to try many genres but prefers fast paced work. He will compose for you under the condition that he can see the work first.[/size]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/cooked-cat/summer]SampleA[/url] ~ [url=https://soundcloud.com/cooked-cat/hunted]SampleB[/url] ~[url=http://www.bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/2836/]Profile[/url]

[b]Guy Commanderson[/b][i] If I Were A Minifig[/i]
[size=small]Guy is an active member of BiM. While preferring orchestral music, he is flexible and willing to try other genres and types. Except for rap music.[/size]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/guy-commanderson … soundtrack]SampleA[/url] ~ [url=https://soundcloud.com/guy-commanderson/now-or-never]SampleB[/url] ~[url=http://www.bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/131009/]Profile[/url]

[b]Kristóf Fekete-Kovács [/b][i]Arginnon[/i]
[size=small]Arginnon is a fairly active member and has been around for a while. He composes electronic music.[/size]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlREEeyemoo]SampleA[/url] ~ [url=https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bzwn0tBBQx4ddjRXclFTaGVLWlE]SampleB[/url] ~[url=http://www.bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/1347/]Profile[/url]
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 If you are a musician and want to get noticed for what you do. Feel free to drop me a PM or post in here. Make sure to include:
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[*]Your [i]Username[/i] or the name you go by.[/*]
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[*]What [i]type of music do you mainly compose[/i] or like to compose (orchestral, electronic, piano)[/*]
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[*]Some [i]examples[/i] of your work[/*]
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[*][i]Exceptions or requirements[/i] before you compose (Ex. I only compose for certain members, I want to see your work first...)[/*]
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[size=large][b]Important[/b][/size]

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[*][b]FreeplayMusic[/b], while advertised as a source of free music for struggling filmmakers and artists, has been accused in multiple court cases as recently as 2019 of being a "copyright troll". They have engaged for a long time in a bait and switch scheme where they advertise their music as free to use, and then slam the artist with outrageous licensing fees upon use in what amounts to an extortion racket. In 2017, they modified their terms of service, claiming now that use of their music on YouTube for personal and non-commercial projects is now allowed for free. Use at your own discretion. Despite their adjusted and more forgiving terms, they were an extortion racket, and seeing that their music is still not technically royalty free I see no reason to invest my trust in them. If their music is truly that good to you, go ahead, but I would tread lightly and carefully.[/*]
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[*][b]Findsounds [/b]is a search engine, not a library. They themselves note that they do not know the licensing information around the sounds that appear on their site. You can use the "view page" function on their site per sound to see licensing information yourself, but I would recommend looking elsewhere for sounds. At any rate, the other options are faster than license hunting for one sound at a time.[/*]
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[size=small][i]If you have anything to add, please list it in the comments.[/i][/size]]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Post Your Music!]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/topic/15848/post-your-music/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[A little bit like the frame threads, but with music! Post a piece of [b]YOUR[/b] music or a full composition, remixes, samples, anything. Make sure to make it available without having to download. Use something like Youtube, Soundcloud, or any other video/music file hosting website. 

[b]Rules:[/b]
  -  Please no swear words or profanity without an obvious warning.
  -  Be constructive and help encourage and enhance each others skills.
  -  Follow the layout as best as possible.
  -  You may only use the owner's music if you have permission or if they state it as, "Royalty Free."
  -  Indulge in fellow brickfilmer's music. 

[b]Layout:[/b]
  -  Song Title. (Artist then Song of it's a remix).
  -  Composer/Dj/Artist/Band Name (it's just good to have).
  -  Genre (if possible).
  -  Description about the song/sample/midi/etc. (Post here if is Royalty Free or not).
  -  Link(s)

Example:

Stormwolf - Shadow Of A Flower (Fijfer Remix) 
Fijfer
Techno (I guess, not accurate)
My first remix I did, (without vocals). Turned out great to me for a first. It IS royalty free, just be sure to give me credit you ever use this.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn8cGpdfbf0]Youtube HD[/url]


Happy posting. :)]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Need to buy a Microphone for a upcoming film!]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/topic/29135/need-to-buy-a-microphone-for-a-upcoming-film/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Around this summer or maybe around May, Imma released a 20min film called ( which I haven't given a name yet) but right now I'm doing the storyboard for film. Right now I need a microphone for the sound effects, do anyone knows a good microphone I can buy?]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (thistof)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2022 04:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Stormtrooper voice]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/topic/28883/stormtrooper-voice/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Does anybody know how to make a recording sound like a stormtrooper, or of any programs that would help? Thanks!]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[puskov017@outlook.com (Helix Bricks Productions)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2021 22:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Free music making software?]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/topic/26237/free-music-making-software/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm looking for a software that I can make music in for my brickfilms. It doesn't have to be anything spectacular, and it needs to be free. My friend owns an Alesis piano, so if you can connect any way to make music through the software instead of playing the actual piano, that would be great. Thanks! :)]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Film Scoring thread]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/topic/20567/film-scoring-thread/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[[img=Film Scoring]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-duJB6YfIfiU/VMUM76USR7I/AAAAAAAAAVw/_Z6SMrM_nQY/s912/Film%2520Scoring.png[/img]

[u][b]Film Scoring[/b][/u]

In my opinion, a soundtrack is not just music to lie beneath the "main" feature, or to accompany and emphasise certain parts of the film; a soundtrack should be used to tell a story, show emotion, set a mood and, most of all be an essential piece of the puzzle to making a good film.

A well made film without music is a well made film, but a well made film with well made music is a well made piece of art; to me a film would rarely be complete without music, and that is why composers like us our so essential in the film industry.

This thread is for anyone who like to post their own music, updates on their compositions and to become known as a film scorer on this site.

I hope this thread will be helpful and I look forward to hearing what you have to say.

My [url=https://soundcloud.com/gilbert-studios]SoundCloud[/url]]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[sound edit for christmas colab]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/topic/27832/sound-edit-for-christmas-colab/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[i need help with sound editing for my christmas colab entry]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Onewiththestud)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2020 21:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[How to Work with a Composer for your Brickfilm]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/topic/27736/how-to-work-with-a-composer-for-your-brickfilm/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[So, you’re making a brickfilm!  You wrote a script, did storyboards, and animated everything exactly the way you wanted it.  You’ve been editing as you go, have lines from your voice actors, and are now adding in sound effects and foley.  But the royalty-free music you found online just isn’t bringing it together - it’s not hitting the moments you want it to, the recording quality isn’t all that great, and it turns out you really hate mandolins (not sure why you chose a piece full of mandolins since you hate them, but you did).  Music just isn’t your forte, but there must be something better than throwing in pre-existing generic tracks on top of all the effort you’ve put into your film.  

There is an alternative, of course: [u]get a composer to write an original score for you![/u]

In this post I’ll break down the basics of what film scoring is, the process generally followed when working with a composer, and some tips so that things run smoothly.  

[b]“I want to work with a film composer on my film, what does that process look like?”[/b]

There’s a few different ways to do this, and a composer might be brought in at any point during the filmmaking process - it could be as early as while the script is still being written, and could be as late as after everything else is done and music is all that’s left.  I’ll explain what is generally a tried-and-true method.  

The composer is brought in sometime during production.  They’re given the script to read, and then the filmmaker and composer have what is called a “spotting session”.  The composer should leave the spotting session knowing where exactly the filmmaker wants music, what the music should sound like, if there’s going to be ‘themes’, and probably a rough idea of instrumentation.  

Now that the composer knows what you want, and you’ve given them a copy of the video, the composer goes off on their own and writes the score.  Then you’ll meet with the composer again and go over the music the composer wrote.  You may want things rewritten or adjusted, or maybe you’ve cut a scene so part of the music has to change, so now the composer is doing edits or re-writes.  The clearer you can be up front to the composer with what you want, the more effectively the composer can bring your vision to life and lessen the need for multiple rewrites.  

Finally, you and the composer are both happy with everything that’s been done and those final versions are placed in the film.  The film is released soon afterward - to critical acclaim, of course - and everyone lived happily ever after.  


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Now that you have an idea of the process, I'll address some specific questions that you may have. 


[b]“What is a film score, and why do I want an original score?”[/b]
The easiest definition of a film score is that it’s [i]original music written by a film composer, specifically for your film, to help tell the story.[/i]  It serves many potential purposes like informing the audience of how a character feels, guiding the emotions of the audience, and generally aiding the storytelling process.  There are different approaches to fulfilling those purposes, but a very popular one is through the use of ‘themes’ that are associated with a specific character, place, or idea.  

An original score has many benefits.  The most obvious of which is that it tells your unique story in a way that’s tailored exactly to it.  An original score can line up perfectly with what happens in your film and portray the emotions needed from moment to moment, helping to more effectively tell your story (which is probably your primary focus).  It’s also an “additional uniquely identifiable element” ** to your film.  Not to mention, it’s one of the most rewarding and exciting parts of the filmmaking process!  

In order to be a proper film score the music would be considered ‘non-diegetic’ or ‘underscore’, and thus only something the audience can hear, not something the characters of the film are able to hear.  Contrasting that, diegetic music is music that exists within the world; for example, music being played by a band on-screen, on the radio, or in a waiting room, are all sources of diegetic music.  So if you approach a film composer about your film and the only thing you’re asking for is Christmas music to play over the radio and as a character’s ringtone, you aren’t actually asking for a film composer to do their job: to write original music, paced to the scene, helping tell the story.  That’s a case where it may be simpler to find royalty free music.  More than likely a film composer can do what you’re asking them to, but you’re not using them as effectively as you could.  

[b]“What do I do during a spotting session?” [/b]
The ideal way of doing this is sitting down in person with the composer and going over the entire film, from start to finish, in a fully-edited form.  That’s often not reality though, and really whatever works for you, is fine.  The most important thing is that the composer[i] leaves the spotting session knowing what to write, where to write it, and why to write it[/i].  

It could be as little information as simply writing a list of where you want music and why, and the composer figures out the rest.  It could be done over a discord or skype call where you talk through the whole film.  Maybe you have temp tracks all throughout the film as placeholders, and you just want the composer to do something similar.  It could be done where you record the screen while the film plays, talk through what you want, and play examples of temp music that you like**.  

[b]“You’ve mentioned ‘temp music’ a few times - what does that mean?”[/b]
Temp music, or temporary music, is [i]music that’s put into a film during editing that is intended to later be replaced by an original score[/i].  It might be there to help the editor with pacing or could help find the style of music the filmmaker wants.  Temp music is just a tool used in the filmmaking process, and can be helpful or hurtful for the composer.  

Helpful, in that it tells the composer the genre/style you want and gives an idea of the pacing or way in what you want the scene to play out.  Hurtful, in that it can be really easy for the filmmaker to become attached to the temp score.  If you become “married to the temp”, then no matter what the composer writes, you’ll just want it to sound like the temp track.  That’s not a fun situation for anyone, so I would caution you to be careful not to love the temp so much that you find the original music unfulfilling.  

[b]“What if I don’t know what I want?” [/b]
[i]That’s okay![/i]  While it does benefit the composer if you have a crystal clear vision of what the music should do, composers can still work with you if you’re unsure.  “Sometimes, it will just take a really bad or obviously wrong track from the composer for both the director and the composer to realize what direction the music needs to go in.” **
In addition to that, “listen to the composer! They probably have ideas that are different than yours. Be open to experimentation and try to keep an open mind. If they have suggestions, consider them thoughtfully” **

[b]“What if I can’t pay my composer?”[/b]
Unfortunately, it’s hard for composers to find paying work.  Ideally, you’re able to pay whatever your composer charges.  If your composer is offering to work for free, which may be the case for a variety of reasons, recognize that they’re likely giving you years of their training and experience, so really try and help make it worth their while.  At the very least, credit them in the film and in the video description in whatever way they want, and if they opt to use a contract, recognize that it’s normal for them to retain ownership of the music (even if they write it for your film).  
“[i]Be nice to your composer![/i] Be patient, courteous, and encouraging (and the composer will almost certainly be the same for you!)” **.  It will be a better experience if you interact with your composer positively and value their input and experience.  We can write better music, and be happier about doing so.  

Along with that, if your composer does a great job,[i] recommend them to other filmmakers you know![/i]  As I said before - finding paying work is tough - and if you are able to help bring your composer other good films to work on - especially if they’re paid - that can be extremely meaningful **.   

Full disclosure as to my own process for taking non-paying jobs.  If anyone on the film is getting paid, then I expect to be paid (for instance, if you’re hiring voice actors or getting paid to create the animation).  If it’s student work or something with no budget, then I’m willing to do that work for free.  Me saying yes to those scenarios will just depend on how much free time I have at that point in time.  I’ll always say yes to paid work.  

[b]
“Who are you and what makes you think you know what you’re talking about?”[/b]
I started out as a [url=www.youtube.com/user/jonndthunder] brickfilmer,[/url] and a number of you may remember me from when I was actively making brickfilms.  I began college as a film major and then switched to music composition during my first semester after having realized film scoring was the way I wanted to tell stories.  I studied music composition intensely (that’s how school is supposed to work), as well as ran a university sponsored club that was entirely about film music.  While in school I worked on various projects, like writing 50 minutes of music for a student feature-length film that I recorded with the school’s string orchestra, music for an interactive VR experience, as well as a few short films.  I’m currently in grad school for a Master’s in Business Administration while pursuing a freelance career doing music composition.   


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Thanks for reading!  I hope you learned something here about the film composing process and how you can work with a composer for your project.  
If you’ve got any questions, you can comment on this thread or PM me on here...and if you’ve got any film projects for me, definitely be in contact!  
I’d also like to thank [url=https://twitter.com/JLFM97]Joshua David Mitchell[/url] for some suggestions and feedback for this post.  Anything marked with ** is directly from him.  He’s the other person I know of who studied music in university and is now actively involved in composing within the brickfilming community.  Absolutely check out [url=https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQm3bFnpJo6Ql9B_byHWM-YpvH7qjfM2_]his work[/url] if you haven’t!]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello, I was going to make a lego walking noise, but can't seem to figure out any
 good items/ ways to make the sound.  If any of you guys know any thing I could use to make a good walking sound effect, please let me know as it would help me lots.  Thanks.]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[LEGO walking sound effect download]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello! So, I find it hard to find a good sound for LEGO walking, so I made my own! I recorded my own sound effect with my Blue Snowball iCE, and I thought that you guys would want a good walking sound for your brickfilms too! So I put the sound on freesound.org so anyone can download it for free!
If you want to download the sound, click this link! [url]https://freesound.org/s/520615/[/url]]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2020 16:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Composer, Available for Scoring BRAWL and Beyond!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hey everyone!  
For those of you who remember me, hello again!  And for those who don’t, hello for the first time!  Even though I don’t post these days, I’m still on here pretty frequently and often in the BiM Discord .  I just graduated college with a Bachelor’s of Music Composition and am working towards a career in film scoring.  

For the next two years I’ll be completing a Master's of Business Administration while also trying to be actively doing music projects.  So I’m offering to, as my time allows, score some projects for y’all!  As I am relatively busy with various commitments, I’ll have to be somewhat picky on what I’m willing to score - so please don’t take it personally if I’m unable to work on your project.  Time willing, I’d love to work with you though!   

[i]I [b]am[/b] available this upcoming week of BRAWL for scoring...if you’re potentially interested, get in touch sooner rather than later![/i]  

As a rule of thumb, I’d like to be involved as early in the process of the film as I can be, but really I can’t score anything until I actually have a fully edited picture.  The more ‘locked’ the picture is, the better.  

Just for transparency's sake: if you’re doing a film with a budget or one that you’re making money from, then we can talk about you hiring me to do the music.  If it’s a no-budget film you’re not making money from, don’t worry about it.   


Here’s some various work examples.  My apologies for the wall of links...whatever you’re interested in hearing, give it a click! There’s a large variety of stuff.  
I composed, orchestrated, and conducted (when applicable) for all of these examples.   

[b]Film Score Examples:[/b]
[i](first two clips are VST samples and are some recent work, the third clip was done with real string and woodwind players for a VR student project, the three live orchestra feature film links are different cues from the same student feature film that I wrote and recorded music for, and the other two links are VST samples written for student short films)[/i]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/animation-adventure-score-pre-release] Animated Short- Action Cue (samples) [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/animation-score-synth-pre-release] Animated Short- Stranger Things-esque Synth Cue (samples) [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/avionscoresample-01/s-mLzWubt19QY] VR Experience - "Liftoff" (live musicians) [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/scoresample_endcredits] Feature Film - Cue "End Credits" (live orchestra) [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/scoresample_0213-14/s-dVHxi] Feature Film - Cue "Just Shut Up" (live orchestra) [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/scoresample_01073/s-uBhED] Feature Film - Cue “Give Thanks” (live orchestra) [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/short-film-end-credits-quirky-elevator-jazz-vsts/s-ICZHP] Short Film - End Credits - Quirky Elevator Jazz Style (VST/samples)[/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/short-film-end-credits-waltz-vst-orchestra/s-psXTa] Short Film - End Credits - Sarcastic Orchestral Waltz (VST/samples) [/url]

[b]Ambient /Textural Video Game Samples:[/b]
[i](these ones were created for in-class projects, essentially mock-scoring video games that don’t exist..they give good examples of some more textural writing, as well as highly stylized like space or western.  All of these use VSTs/Samples, nothing is live)[/i]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_western-heroic-vst/s-YKhkv] Western Theme, Heroic Version [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_western-ambience-vst-orchestra/s-VWj92] Western Theme, Ambience Version [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_space-menu-vst-synth/s-IbNI8] Space Ambience, Menu [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_space-exploration-ambiance-vst-synth/s-Ed0U6] Space Ambience, Exploration [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_space-death-vst-synth/s-kb1Cl] Space Ambience, Death [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_arctic-exploration-ambience-vst-orchestra/s-MW1j7] Arctic Tundra Ambience, Exploration [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_arctic-cave-ambiance-vst-orchestra/s-6PhDy] Arctic Tundra Ambience, Ice Cave [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_arctic-underwater-ambiance-vst-orchestra/s-ZTmKI] Arctic Tundra Ambience, Underwater [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_horror-ambiance-vsts/s-MgEfg] Horror Ambience, General [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_horror-chase-ambiance-vst-orchestra/s-WikpZ] Horror Ambience, Chase [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_background-jazz-intro-vst-synths/s-MmD1j] Synth Jazz, Intro [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_background-jazz-loopable-vst-synths/s-RrXor] Synth Jazz, Energetic [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/video-game-exercise_background-jazz-outtro-vst-synths/s-KQUAL] Synth Jazz, Outtro [/url]

[b]Concert Work Samples:[/b]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/alaska-suite-for-orchestra-movement-i-alyeska/s-bjajmWmM1vC] Alaska Suite for Orchestra: Alyeska (VST Mock-up) [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/in-pursuit-of-light-and-space-brass-quintet/s-Aggzr] In Pursuit of Light and Space (live brass quintet) [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/aurora-ascending/s-s4Xsj] Aurora Ascending (live solo piano piece) [/url]
[url=https://soundcloud.com/jordendavismusic/string-quartet-1/s-BDRMT] Terra: Lutum Draco (live string quartet) [/url]


If you’d like to reach out about working on anything together generally, or if you’d be interested in something for BRAWL, you can forum message me here or send me an email at jordendavis3483@gmail.com  

Thanks for listening!  
-JDD]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[What mic do you use?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Here you can post what mic you use so others can see what is good to buy.

if you want to submit your mic please do so like this:

Mic: blue snowball ice plug and play usb microphone.
Link: [url]amazon.com/Blue-Snowball-Condenser-Microphone-Cardioid/dp/B006DIA77E[/url]
Rated: 4 out of 5 stars. it automaticly filters backround noise.]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2020 17:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[blue snowball ice]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[hey guys! i just got a blue snowball ice! (it will be here soon. i got it on amazon) do any of you guys have any tips and/or tricks for the ice? i will also tell you guys how i like it soon!

buy it! <[url]amazon.com/Blue-Snowball-Condenser-Microphone-Cardioid/dp/B006DIA77E?th=1[/url]]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Owen Garcia)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2020 01:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Who uses audacity?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Do you guys use audacity? I do and I like it, but I would welcome any voice editing tips and tricks! :cool:]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Owen Garcia)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Welcome to the Audio Forum!]]></title>
			<link>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/topic/21462/welcome-to-the-audio-forum/new/posts/</link>
			<description><![CDATA[While we've always had a forum with the name "Audio," this is essentially a new forum. What we came to realize is that the "audio" forum has almost always been used for casting calls and little else. As a result, audio, which is half the end product of a film, has been given little importance in discussion on this site; any attempts to have serious discussions were typically buried quickly by more casting calls.

My hope is that now that these forums are separate, we can begin to have fruitful discussions about the design, recording, editing, and mixing of audio in brickfilming. I think it is an under-appreciated and under-attended element of most independent film, and I hope that we can rise to the occasion and begin to take it more seriously on Bricks in Motion.]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 18:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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