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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=AwesomepantsFilms][quote=Lechnology][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGRXMbQL4l0]That's[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tyf1eqC3m]not[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pPvY7bHcLA]true[/url].  Brickfilms cover the whole audience spectrum, from kids to adults, from biblical to erotic, from profound to profane.

The creator sets the intended audience.[/quote]
May you direct me to the erotic category of Brickfilms please?
:P[/quote]

Click on the word, "not" in his message. Or don't if you value your mind.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Bros with da Legos]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/141480/</uri>
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			<updated>2020-05-23T13:24:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/386392/#p386392"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Lechnology][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGRXMbQL4l0]That's[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tyf1eqC3m]not[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pPvY7bHcLA]true[/url].  Brickfilms cover the whole audience spectrum, from kids to adults, from biblical to erotic, from profound to profane.

The creator sets the intended audience.[/quote]
May you direct me to the erotic category of Brickfilms please?
:P]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AwesomepantsFilms]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[legoawesomepants@gmail.com]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/138584/</uri>
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			<updated>2020-05-23T03:40:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Okay, thanks for the explanations! :)]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Humbug]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/133977/</uri>
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			<updated>2020-05-20T05:20:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I mean, I recently made a biblical film and I set it as 'not for kids' because a pig got killed and there was some blood. In one scene it is implied that a guy spent cash on some women. I don't know if it would be considered kid friendly, but I figured that it would be family friendly (ie. they showed it at church). Was that the right thing to do as there was some "graphic" content...]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[UncleLeo Studios]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/142115/</uri>
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			<updated>2020-05-20T00:54:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Here's the thing, popular YouTube creators have a target audience. They know  what kind of people will watch their videos and they gear their videos for those people's enjoyment. Many of us brickfilmers aren't popular, don't care, and don't have a target audience in mind. That makes it harder for us. Because our videos contain Lego bricks, it would make sense for us to label our content as made for kids. If our videos aren't appropriate for kids thought, we certainly wouldn't want to consider that kids content, but family friendly stuff would be better marked as made for kids.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Bros with da Legos]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/141480/</uri>
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			<updated>2020-05-19T14:15:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[A lot of them are/would be. If you look at a lot of inactive brickfilmers/older brickfilm channels (where the creator probably isn't as active and/or doesn't care) the majority of those brickfilms have been set to 'made for kids' already.

Similar to Adult Swim, or Family Guy, or Robot Chicken, though - just because brickfilms use a medium generally aimed at kids (construction toys, or cartoon animation and vintage kids toys in the aforementioned cases) doesn't mean the content is suitable for a child audience.

As Lech said, the creator sets the intended audience.

Although, I'm of the opinion that all eligible brickfilms [b]should[/b] be set to 'made for kids,' since the new COPPA compliance isn't about signifying audience [i]"hey, my videos are for ALL ages"[/i] but rather about preventing YouTube/Google/Others to track minors on the internet.

COPPA was passed in the early 2000s, and every website has had to comply with its guidelines. YouTube thought their kids app was enough, but clearly it wasn't. Loads of videos kids watch weren't on the app and a lot of parents and kids just didn't use it/know it existed and used regular old YouTube.

Now, one could make the argument that instead of forcing content creators to label select videos, YouTube could have made it mandatory to sign in before watching videos - thus filtering content viewed by kids' accounts, but this would have greatly lowered view counts and ad revenue for a lot of people - including themselves.

So they chose to put the responsibility on the uploaders. And boy is that not working out.

'Made for kids' videos can be viewed on either platform (reg YouTube or the kids app) though, so I set my own appropriate content to 'made for kids' so it can get exposure on both. A lot of the new changes & limitations suck, but I think many are overreacting to it and their refusal to comply [i]could[/i] come around and bite them in the rear... however unlikely that may be.

But hey, even LEGO has made sets & references to non-children's content. (Stranger Things sets, Agents from the Matrix, and R rated film, are seen in the background of The LEGO Movie, etc.) So, you can see why there's debate and a some community members decided to jump ship to another hosting site.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dyland]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[thedylandproductions@yahoo.com]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/2257/</uri>
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			<updated>2020-05-19T06:57:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/386343/#p386343"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Lechnology][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGRXMbQL4l0]That's[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tyf1eqC3m]not[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pPvY7bHcLA]true[/url].  Brickfilms cover the whole audience spectrum, from kids to adults, from biblical to erotic, from profound to profane.

The creator sets the intended audience.[/quote]

I understand that many brickfilms are not intended for a younger audience. It's just that, as brickfilms include a popular children's toy, I thought that might deem them 'made for kids' according to the guidelines.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Humbug]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/133977/</uri>
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			<updated>2020-05-19T06:01:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/386342/#p386342"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGRXMbQL4l0]That's[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tyf1eqC3m]not[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pPvY7bHcLA]true[/url].  Brickfilms cover the whole audience spectrum, from kids to adults, from biblical to erotic, from profound to profane.

The creator sets the intended audience.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Lechnology]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/80/</uri>
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			<updated>2020-05-19T05:30:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[This might be a little off-topic, but, staying on the subject of COPPA and Youtube, I've seen that some brickfilmers still have comments on their videos. I've wondered why this is the case, when I would've thought brickfilms would fall into the 'made for kids' category?]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Humbug]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/133977/</uri>
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			<updated>2020-05-19T05:17:47Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/386341/#p386341</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Brick-a-Brack isn't a YouTube alternative. You can't upload there. It's a French website that operates in a similar manner as Bricks in Motion in that you post your video there and people can comment.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rioforce]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/131977/</uri>
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			<updated>2020-01-09T17:03:17Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/384376/#p384376</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Do any of you guys know what that [url=https://www.brick-a-brack.com/]Brick-a-Brack[/url] website is? A lot of you use it, right? Is it a good YouTube alternative?]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bros with da Legos]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/141480/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2020-01-09T15:36:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[It sounds like things are cooling over with YouTube's last update. They are giving us more of a choice than having them take over our videos. I guess time will tell.

I checked out LBRY and that didn't look great but DaikyMotion looked ok. 

A platform with a large volume of Lego video creators other than YouTube would be nice so long as there is at least some kickbacks ie. Money. 

As for the audience, if enough users speed the word, people will come. 

Also what's stopping us from having our videos on more than one platform? Why not?

For now let's see what January 2020 will bring.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hellcat77]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/141235/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2019-12-22T02:55:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I don't want to be a part of a website that hosts and actively supports pornographic content. And I won't go there to watch 'your' films - whomever that 'you' is. Newgrounds, IMHO, is not a place for brickfilms and brickfilmers - even those that wish to spread their videos out amongst multiple platforms.

IMO, there are better platforms.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Dyland]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[thedylandproductions@yahoo.com]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/2257/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2019-12-18T01:08:00Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/383828/#p383828</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Dyland][quote=rioforce]I'm not moving from youtube. It's the best hosting site... My take is that while it may be better for creators to host elsewhere... it's not better for consumers. I'm not gonna go to far lengths to hunt down brickfilms personally.[/quote]

But isn't that the most indie !@#$ ever; posting films on a website where almost no one's gonna go out of their way to see them? :P

[quote=AwesomepantsFilms]For a lot of us with smaller channels, we get more views on NG than the same videos did on YT.[/quote]

That's not the point. William Osborne's Dancing in the Street recreation got over twice the amount of views on Vimeo as it did YouTube. But the Vimeo upload only has 4 comments while the YouTube upload got 28. (plus the 5 on BiM and the twitter responses...)

Views do not directly correlate to audience & engagement beyond the initial single click. And even then, a look into the YouTube Analytics page generally shows that audience retention, even for short videos, is rather short. (e.g. clicking on and clicking right back off)

Especially when it comes to content like brickfilms, audience convenience should be a priority.[/quote]

Newgrounds is pretty decent with audience engagement though, with people commenting quite freely, comparable to youtube for a similar amount of views. I just don't see why we shouldn't just upload on both sites, I feel as though that is the best of both worlds, and provides a sort of 'safety net' when more changes are made to youtube that'll harm animators]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lord Ringozinglyzong]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[mrmannyrajapa@gmail.com]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/132910/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2019-12-17T22:17:13Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/383826/#p383826</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Alternative Video Hosting Sites]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote="Dyland"]I know it would be very memory-heavy and expensive, but what about going old school and having Bricks in Motion host the videos directly?[/quote]

I don't know what the current financial state of BricksInMotion is, but I don't think the pockets are deep enough for that kind of hosting. Server space isn't actually that expensive, it's the bandwidth. A site can potentially host thousands of videos, so long as each one is only getting a few views a month it isn't an issue. But if one 25Mb video gets mega popular (maybe some famous person links to it) it can suck up the month's bandwidth allowance in a day (or a few hours). If we're lucky, the hosting company simply shuts the site down. If the hosting company is "user friendly" they might keep providing a service (good for the viewer, good for the brand) but hand over a bill for thousands of dollars at the end of the month (very bad for the site owner / admins).

Using an existing site which has a large company behind it is a much better idea than BiM hosting.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dr Neo Lao]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/88/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2019-11-22T08:06:57Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/383544/#p383544</id>
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