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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Err, no. I thought we had something hammered out the other day, but I don't think anything's been done lately.
There're a few issues that still need to be decided, and we're all waiting for somebody else to do something. :eh:

It all comes down to one of two choices:
1. Just reboot the thread as it is, and let it go on for better or worse. 
2. Create a new thread that is monitored and run by folks that will keep it in line and going well.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pritchard Studios]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/4427/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-27T03:51:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[So, Nathan and the other staff members, have you come to a decision yet, or will we let the discussion carry on some more?]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[rioforce]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/131977/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-27T02:58:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/342142/#p342142"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Like jampot and Slurping Animations said, just make a new topic, same rules, same everything, but use both old and new topics.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Zachary Volt]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/4392/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-23T16:25:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I would lock the current topic, and start up a new one which can use new and old challenge ideas. The current one is, a mess, and a new animation challenge topic would be more ideal!]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Slurpy]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/125782/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-23T15:48:25Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/342140/#p342140</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=jampot]The more we discuss all of this, the less I'm seeing that's wrong with the original format. I think all we need to delete is just start afresh, same format, maybe have the mods keep a closer eye on it, and allow old themes to be reused. I don't think it needs to be 'fixed'.[/quote]

That's pretty much my feelings on it too.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[GEF]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/130526/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-23T14:50:39Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/342138/#p342138</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[yeah, just a bit of promotion for their hard work....]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Cooked Cat]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/2836/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-23T06:33:57Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/342124/#p342124</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Harborlight Productions][quote=jampot]Maybe it would better if it was cross-platform: the winning entry broadcast over Faceboom, Twitter, Instafresh, Google Plus, wherever BiM has a presence.[/quote]

That would put a lot of work on the people managing those social media pages. I think we could find an easier solution. A topic dedicated to putting the list of winners on would be easiest. 

If we were to promote the winner on a social media site, that encourages people to enter for the wrong reasons.[/quote]

I don't know that it is a 'wrong' reason to be honest; not everyone's solely out to get views on The Tube, but at the same time it's nice to be appreciated.

Also, a thread with a list of winners would be unnecessary: just list them in the first post, as we [s]should[/s] have been doing all along anyway. I think we should avoid making too many threads, as it could easily end up being convoluted and hard for members to understand.

The more we discuss all of this, the less I'm seeing that's wrong with the original format. I think all we need to delete is just start afresh, same format, maybe have the mods keep a closer eye on it, and allow old themes to be reused. I don't think it needs to be 'fixed'.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[jampot]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/189/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-22T14:10:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=jampot]Maybe it would better if it was cross-platform: the winning entry broadcast over Faceboom, Twitter, Instafresh, Google Plus, wherever BiM has a presence.[/quote]

That would put a lot of work on the people managing those social media pages. I think we could find an easier solution. A topic dedicated to putting the list of winners on would be easiest. 

If we were to promote the winner on a social media site, that encourages people to enter for the wrong reasons.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Harborlight]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/131974/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-22T12:56:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[An idea I had on chat Jampot was that the winner does choose the theme. Once he picks the theme the host will post a thread. But if the winner doesn't send in a theme in a certain time period then the host will pick one/or they start a community poll. That way, everything will keep moving instead of having to wait for the winner for a so-so amount of time.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Harborlight]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/131974/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-22T12:52:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=legogod]This is where the winners would come in. Each challenge would be like a mini Olympics to put your best foot forward and represent for the community. There would be no need for trophies or badges. Whoever wins gets their video posted to the resources section forever and writes a technical blurb about how said effect was achieved.[/quote]

[quote=Harborlight Productions]how about they get on a topic made for featuring the list of people who won?[/quote]

I'm going to be honest, I think both of those are extremely unlikely to encourage people to enter. Choosing the next challenge is such a simple concept that's worked for years. Even if you say that the winner can only choose from a pool of pre-existing ideas (either thought out by mods or previous challenges) I think that's more likely to get people fired up about entering than going on the Resources page. I don't think representing for the community will interest most people, and most people also won't want to write a technical blurb. As far as a topic of winners goes...that's the first post in the Animation Challenge thread. It just needs to be updated more often.

Cooked Cat was perhaps along a better line, but that still leaves the problem (as Harborlight rightly pointed out) that a lot of people don't have/use Facebook (plus I wasn't aware BiM even had a facebook page). Maybe it would better if it was cross-platform: the winning entry broadcast over Faceboom, Twitter, Instafresh, Google Plus, wherever BiM has a presence.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[jampot]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/189/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-02-22T12:46:38Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/342050/#p342050</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Cooked Cat]perhaps, the 'reward' could just be it getting featured on the BiM facebook page.....[/quote]

Some people can't access facebook. Instead how about they get on a topic made for featuring the list of people who won?]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Harborlight]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/131974/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-22T12:29:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I think the word challenge implies competition where it doesn't need to be. The "challenge" is for the animator to better their technique within the constraints of time and theme.

I have seen plenty of entries for the animation challenge tagged with: "this is what I threw together at the last minute." This disappoints me. In the interest of advancing and learning from the experience time and effort should play a major role. I like the idea mentioned above of having two weeks/ two weekends per challenge which should promote quality. 

I thought it might be nice, at one time long ago, to supplement the resources section of this website with animations made by the community. A lot of people come here looking for ideas and help. If someone comes looking for an ocean wave technique it would be nice to point them to the "Indexed and Easily Searchable Animation Challenge Page." 

[quote=legogod]Look Bobby-there are three very good techniques listed under ocean/waves here.(circa February 2017) [/quote]

This is where the winners would come in. Each challenge would be like a mini Olympics to put your best foot forward and represent for the community. There would be no need for trophies or badges. Whoever wins gets their video posted to the resources section forever and writes a technical blurb about how said effect was achieved. The Animation Challenge thread right now only lists the winners in the first post. Good luck finding another animation quickly that had a good idea in it. 

I know this idea was a long shot when I first thought about it and in most cases it still is. I thought I would post it here to show there might be other solutions or workarounds for the Animation Challenge thread.
Have fun.
Jared]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[legogod]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/617/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-02-22T07:36:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[perhaps, the 'reward' could just be it getting featured on the BiM facebook page.....]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Cooked Cat]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/2836/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-02-22T01:12:29Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/342034/#p342034</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/342033/#p342033"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Ah, the Animation Challenge. I used to enter that a few times, but (and I had stated this before, in the thread itself, multiple times in the past) because of a busy school year for many, a lot of members probably wouldn't have the time or resources to constantly be making entries every time another challenge rolled around. And that was the reason why there weren't many entries coming in, and why the deadline was constantly being extended. I told the people in the forums that it wasn't really a good idea to hold the challenge during this time, but they continued on, and thus came the dying thread known as The Animation Challenge.

I personally think that it'd be fair to unsticky the thread, instead of closing it, so as to let it grow less and less active and let it die on its own, buried beneath the newer, more active threads in that will come and go. Revamping the Animation Challenge at a later time in another place might be a good idea too.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Mickey]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/3007/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-02-22T00:22:15Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/342033/#p342033</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How would you fix the Animation Challenge?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/342011/#p342011"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[We've discussed rep/trophy systems before, and opinions were mixed. While they could end up being divisive, I think our conclusion was that they'd come after/with the sitr redesign, when that happens.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jampot]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/189/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-02-21T18:20:11Z</updated>
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