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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[One of your best films!]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mosh5256]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/132414/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-01-17T14:56:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Squid]Yes, it looks weird that I just posted today, but for months I had neglected to submit it to the directory properly after it was up again (it was down for just a short while during the same time as BRAWL).

I'm really fond of how BiM keeps track of all of your completed films on a nice little list as well as all of your voice acting, and i didn't want to leave this out, even with its many flaws.[/quote]

Yes ofcourse. It's fun to build your list. :P  

Looks like you got a mighty big voice acting list there. :P]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Harborlight]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/131974/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-01-16T01:08:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Yes, it looks weird that I just posted today, but for months I had neglected to submit it to the directory properly after it was up again (it was down for just a short while during the same time as BRAWL).

I'm really fond of how BiM keeps track of all of your completed films on a nice little list as well as all of your voice acting, and i didn't want to leave this out, even with its many flaws.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Squid]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/3704/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-01-16T00:58:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I just realized this wasn't on the film page. Well anyways pretty nice film Squid.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Harborlight]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/131974/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-01-16T00:16:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I... must admit. I hadn't watched this before, it slipped by me when I was taking a hiatus from the site. Beautiful animation and lighting as always. Set design was superb, and I loved the writing. Creative idea doing it in the form of a poem. The sound design was good as well, fit well with the visuals. The one thing that seemed a bit off, was the narration. At times it sounded like you were running out of breath. But that is a very nitpicky criticism.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[RedBrick1]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/2790/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-05T19:22:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Meh, not your best work, IMO. But, you definitely worked hard on this, and you did well with the rhyming. Congrats on getting fourth place in the final results, Squid!]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mickey]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/3007/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-03T00:15:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Walter Benson]How long was the exposure on some of those shots?[/quote]

For the Pumpkin's lair, as with Odoriferous, I had to do a one second exposure, which was especially annoying since I duck down under the table for every frame.  This made animation take a lot longer.
I had to because the central element of lighting was the glowing vat of orange potion, which was lit by an iPhone screen.  Despite having it at maximum brightness, it was still relatively dim.  Also, as in Odoriferous, I had one of my lamps shined at a wooden log cabin wall to warm its light up slightly and dim it significantly to add a slight bit of extra light.  For this film specifically though, I had a piece of orange paper above the set which has an LED flashlight shining at it.  This provides most of the light not from the vat of potion and reflects off of the Pumpkin's hat.  I also had the glass with a flashlight shining through it which added a sparkle onto certain parts of the set.  I particularly liked it when some of the potions on tables near the walls were in the foreground with some light from the window sparkling off of them.

For another shot, though, I used a two second exposure.  I forgot which one that was, though (it might have been the one with the glowing potion pot).

For the shot of the potion lighting up and then going out, I had the same light lighting up the potion but took a picture of that glowing potion with every exposure setting on my camera betwixt 1 1000th of a second and 30 seconds.  I have to manually adjust the settings on the camera itself so I had to be horribly careful not to bump the camera as I adjusted the exposure every frame.  Towards the end I also had to wait a really long time, but I managed to get it in one take.
This shot ended up being a little too long, so I took out half the frames to make it light up faster, and then took those cut frames and placed them in reversed order on the other end to make it fade out.
One of the things I really like about that shot is you can see how the light looks at so many different levels and how they all make the potion look different, but all together they work splendidly sequentially.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Squid]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/3704/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-07-29T18:38:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Wow, there's a lot of suggestions and critiques in this thread. I don't have anything really to add in that department.  

I do want to say, despite it's minor flaws, I still think this is a really solid entry. It is possibly one of the most impressive brickfilms ever in terms of lighting. How long was the exposure on some of those shots?]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Walter Benson]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/129762/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-07-29T18:10:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Yeah, I took a lot of shortcuts with that poem, if I had more time, I would have set a consistent rhyming pattern, but I decided since I had so little time I would just skip about and do what ever would be convenient to make writing go faster.
Though, I am very pleased that despite taking that shortcut I believe I went the whole way without making a single false rhyme.  I'm pretty sure all of these are actually true rhymes (I despise false rhymes), so I tried very hard to do that at least.

For the poem in Welcome to Darkmoor, though, I spent a lot more time on that and set a very consistent pattern throughout the whole poem, so that's something.
I'll try to take all of these critiques from you guys to mind when recording that next poem to make it better than this one.  So thanks!]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Squid]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/3704/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-07-29T17:34:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[This video is truly a visual treat! The lighting is absolutely astounding and the sets are wonderful. The music is perfect and the sound design works. The story is also engaging and wonderful - it feels like a classic that belongs in a compilation of fables and fairy tales.

My one criticism, and unfortunately it's a big one for me, is the poem itself and the resulting vocal track. I can certainly appreciate how difficult it is to write a poem; especially under such a restrictive time allotment. However, from a technical standpoint, the poem feels completely disjointed - there is no consistent meter, the number of lines vary from verse to verse, some examples of internal rhymes are sprinkled in but not consistently used; the end result of all of this is that the poem does not develop the rhythm that the listener expects, and therefore, it is difficult to follow. Rather than mask the shortcomings of the written word, the vocal track compounds the issues. For starters, the vocals sound rushed. The visuals are so lush and need to be soaked in; however, the vocal track does not allow it to happen. The vocals also sound breathy (at times) and somewhat restrained or hushed which further taxes the listener/viewer. Throughout the whole film, I found myself saying, 'what just happened?...what was that?...what happened?' There are some genres where a rapid, disjointed presentation works but I don't think it works for a classic fable/fairy tale. (also, a post-credits joke after such a dark, somber vid seemed like an odd choice)

I still like this film very much - the visuals and the storyline carry the day. You don't make is easy for the audience but the end product is worth it.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AlNickelsFilms]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/3434/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-07-29T15:26:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I really liked it, the writing and the cinematography were amazing. Though, I found it annoying how, when you were taking about the facless elf, there were to many pans and it got annoyign after a bit. But really good job, one of my favorites.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rockydude411]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[rockydude411@yahoo.com]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/130340/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2014-07-29T01:51:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Hopefully they won't judge it for the video quality, though there are many people who can't get a decent film rendered in HD as well.
Though I really should try to make an export which is probably slightly less pixelated, I can probably get it a little nicer without sacrificing that much time but not going quite to HD.
Next time, perhaps.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Squid]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/3704/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-07-28T20:12:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Ah, I see, Squid.
[quote=NXTManiac]I'm pretty sure the logo was supposed to be included in the final uploaded version, but that's just my take on the rule. [/quote]
I think it still follows the letter of the law, if not the spirit. It seems all right, though, as the low quality version with the logo is the version in the contest playlist and the version that the judges will be judging.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[twickabrick]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/1323/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2014-07-28T19:34:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: We the Pumpkins Three]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I'm impressed by the number of sets you had built for this film. The idea of telling a brickfilm through poetry is neat, and in general I think it was well done, though there were some awkward parts that sounded like the making of a rhyming dictionary, notably the "deplorable" line, but considering the time constraint I think you succeeded pretty well in the writing. I wasn't a huge fan of the narration, it always sounded like you were out of breath, but hey that adds character.

I can certainly see this placing highly in the contest, the technicalities are solid and the storytelling is unique. Nice work!

[quote=Squid]I also went ahead and removed the logo since I didn't really want it there and it felt a little awkward with the rest of the video, and as the video had already been submitted wasn't necessary for the HD upload.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure the logo was supposed to be included in the final uploaded version, but that's just my take on the rule. Submitting a low quality version with the logo and then almost immediately replacing it with a high quality version [i]without[/i] the logo seems a bit disingenuous. The idea behind the rule was that Brick Warriors would get some exposure from the entries.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[NXTManiac]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/124/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2014-07-28T19:12:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=twickabrick]I'm curious to know how the BrickWarriors logo is in here (or if it's in here at all)?[/quote]

To submit it to the contest, I had to render a very low quality upload to render and submit in time because rendering and uploading in HD can take five or so hours all together for me which is really too much time to in such a short contest.
After submitting that low def version, I set to render my HD upload, but I before that I remedied two or three errors I hadn't noticed until I uploaded the low def submitted version.  I also went ahead and removed the logo since I didn't really want it there and it felt a little awkward with the rest of the video, and as the video had already been submitted wasn't necessary for the HD upload.
The submitted version can be seen here: [url]http://youtu.be/Nh3sAHG4jcM[/url]

Just about all of my contest films were submitted in low quality and then what I released is an HD version with slight adjustments.  The only exception being Odoriferous, though I did make a low quality version just in case I couldn't do the big one in time.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Squid]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/3704/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2014-07-28T18:57:52Z</updated>
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