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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[the echo was very distracting, the Ebay thing was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too long. :/]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Living LEGO]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/495/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-04-10T02:15:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[lmao 

*shakes*]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[fib12345]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[fib12345@brickmation.net]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/172/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-04-08T13:33:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[We cool. 

[s]*hug* [/s]
*shakes hand*

-MRB]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Max Butcher]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/239/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-04-08T13:29:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Yo Max: Sorry for accusing you for insulting me. Your critique just hit me so hard, I know you didn't mean to bash me. You've been animating longer than me, so i respect you and will take your advice.

We cool?]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[fib12345]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[fib12345@brickmation.net]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/172/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-04-08T13:24:22Z</updated>
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		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Once again - Exellent advice. 

-MRB]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Max Butcher]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/239/</uri>
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			<updated>2009-04-08T12:58:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Max Butcher]I dont think I should have assumed. I just dont like asking loads of questions[/quote]

You can just critique it based on what you see on screen - if the frame rate is low or the animation looks jerky, say "the frame rate is low" or "the animation looks jerky" instead of "I suggest you stop using WMM". If the filmmaker then asks how to make it less jerky, you can ask questions about what he's currently using.

As a general rule, when I'm posting criticism I write what I think, take a break, read back what I just wrote and think about how I'd feel if someone said it to me. Then I take out anything that sounds like a personal attack and try to rephrase things that sound overly harsh.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[0ldScratch]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/382/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-04-08T09:53:10Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/37653/#p37653</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Random Parrot]The "1/10" and the WMM and Natural Light assumptions were harsh, he should have asked what he animated it in then said he should change if it was WMM.[/quote]

Yes. I shouldnt really have rated it '1/10', and I dont think I should have assumed. I just dont like asking loads of questions (I hate it when people keep asking me the same questions over and over). I once again apologise for assuming - and accept that I was a little harsh, but I wasnt attacking you for 'fun' Fib. 

[quote=Maggosh]...Acutally, that might explain why Andy was beat up in The Bad Day. A case of mistaken identity, I s'pose.[/quote]

Lol. 

-MRB]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Max Butcher]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/239/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-04-08T06:42:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Nobodies attacking the amateur. What these people are saying IS CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. They are helping you to improve correct? Thats helping your STRUCTURE.
Maybe try seeing these comments in one big picture, that may help.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[TheyCallMeKing]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/501/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-04-07T20:28:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Spudster] Everything that Max said is true, listen to him.[/quote]
He is right but it's the way he delivered the criticism. The "1/10" and the WMM and Natural Light assumptions were harsh, he should have asked what he animated it in then said he should change if it was WMM.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[randomparrot]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/77/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-04-07T19:17:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Fib, if you can't take advice you will never ever become a better animator. Everything that Max said is true, listen to him. I wasn't that great when I started, and it's because of the criticism I received from the older, more experienced members that got me to try new techniques. Fib, you can't just turn your back and say that your film rocks and that whoever disagrees is insulting you for pleasure. C'mon, Fib, they are just trying to help you! But I guess if you don't want to become a better animator, that's up to you...]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Spudster]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[spudster45@hotmail.com]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/19/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-04-07T18:24:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Max Butcher]Do you think I go out and bash old ladies with a cane for fun?[/quote]

...Acutally, that might explain why Andy was beat up in [i]The Bad Day[/i]. A case of mistaken identity, I s'pose.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[maggosh]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[caberwikijack@gmail.com]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/127/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-04-07T16:55:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Look Fib, I didnt mean to sound agressive or insult you. I'm just trying to help you improve. 

[quote]- I don't use frikkin WMM, I use SMA. Don't assume that because the film isn't top notch[/quote]

I suggest you then try to improve your animation technique. Its good that your using SMA, but the framerate does I'm afraid look like it was done in WMM. I'm not exactly the best animator in the world (in-fact, I'm probally one of the worst) but I'm sure you can do alot better animation wise. 

[quote]- I'm not using natural sunlight
- I'm using a frikkin 9000[/quote]

Again, it looks like you have. If your using a 9K, then I suggest you try looking at ways to improve the quality - since the Quickcam can get a really sweet picture if you work on it. I think lighting may have something to do with it, so maybe you might want to invest in a stronger light. Again, you dont have to take my advice. 

[quote]Maybe, you can say something nice for once instead of finding an amatur to insult for pleasure.[/quote] 

.....what?  
You think that [b]I[/b] insult you for [i][b]FUN?[/b][/i] I'm insulted. How dare you! How DARE you think I would sink that low! Do you think I go out and bash old ladies with a cane for fun? Do you think that I kick my cat when I'm bored, or strangle my sister just to see how long it takes her to turn blue? How dare you!]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Max Butcher]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/239/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-04-07T15:29:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/37444/#p37444"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Seriously. Mailday got a ton of people saying: You should have explained it better. I don't get it. Now I know that I need to work on my storyline.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[MMproductions]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/142/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-04-07T15:10:22Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/37444/#p37444</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Fib, we're not attacking you, we're trying to help you.

Now don't worry, there's always been a time where we can't exactly take criticism. I remember when I hated being criticized and scowled at people for criticizing. But if you're not ready for criticism, you shouldn't be posting your films here. We're giving you our honest opinion. If we make up that it's great when it's not exactly great, you're not going to get anywhere. 

Take a chill pill, dude. We all love you! ;)]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Splash]]></name>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/106/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-04-07T14:54:15Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/37439/#p37439</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Mike and Ike in: Teh Internetz]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/37393/#p37393"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Are alternatively, if you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing. This is constructive criticism, not attack the amateur.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[fib12345]]></name>
				<email><![CDATA[fib12345@brickmation.net]]></email>
				<uri>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/user/172/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-04-07T12:58:09Z</updated>
			<id>https://bricksinmotion.com/forums/post/37393/#p37393</id>
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